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  Posted on Aug.20.2009 @ 11:07PM EDT by chontri

Bhikkhus, what is ignorance?
Not knowing suffering,
Not knowing the origin of suffering,
Not knowing the cessation of suffering,
Not knowing the path leading to... continue...

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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: DO YOU GET ENLIGHTENED BY QOUTING OTHER PEOPLE FOREVER
vertical line Posted on Oct.20.2012 @ 11:52AM EDT by leoj99
I noticed many people love to quote and quote. Are they enlightened by doing that?


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Reply from Joe Chip
Oct.20.2012
11:54AM EDT 
vertical line Be more specific.

Did ya get any on ya?

[You can use that]
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Oct.20.2012
11:59AM EDT 
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Reply from football
Oct.20.2012
01:40PM EDT 
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I noticed many people love to quote and quote. Are they enlightened by doing that?

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Do you see your wise side?

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Reply from Avisitor
Oct.20.2012
03:07PM EDT 
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vertical line I noticed many people love to quote and quote. Are they enlightened by doing that?

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Enlightenment is not understanding quotes or using them.
But, some claim such things by using quotes.

It is up to you if you want to follow them.
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Reply from leoj99
Oct.20.2012
03:15PM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "I noticed many people love to quote and quote. Are they enlightened by doing that?

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Enlightenment is not understanding quotes or using them.
But, some claim such things by using quotes.

It is up to you if you want to follow them.
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Yeah the moment they open their mouth they quote somebody.
I noticed even respected Teachers in Zen do that...lol
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Reply from esoteric
Oct.20.2012
04:26PM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "Quote: "I noticed many people love to quote and quote. Are they enlightened by doing that?

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Enlightenment is not understanding quotes or using them.
But, some claim such things by using quotes.

It is up to you if you want to follow them.
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Yeah the moment they open their mouth they quote somebody.
I noticed even respected Teachers in Zen do that...lol
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Who are you quoting?
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Oct.20.2012
04:46PM EDT 
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Reply from Sam Hardy
Oct.25.2012
01:10PM EDT 
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vertical line Better to speak from your (one's) own ignorance and stupidity than quote someone else's wisdom.

This is my very own Zen quote for the day.  Probably nonsense but it sounds good.
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Reply from football
Oct.25.2012
01:46PM EDT 
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Hello Sam.You are one of the rare person I understand what he says(talking about) at the forum.

I like your english.;)

good day

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Oct.25.2012
01:51PM EDT 
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vertical line lots of beautiful yellow/golden leaves in the trees and drifting to the ground this fall
and have been seeing a lot of beautiful yellow frogs recently, on the leaf covered ground, the windows, on the deck

went in the back of the house to find a guitar tuner (to find a D to tune the guitar for Hey Hey My My by Neil Young) and under the ironing board was a yellow frog!

on a closer look it was a yellow leaf!

i d e n t i c a l

so I carefully picked it up and put it outside

free in as free out
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Reply from Joe Chip
Oct.25.2012
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Oct.25.2012
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vertical line Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "I noticed many people love to quote and quote. Are they enlightened by doing that?

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Enlightenment is not understanding quotes or using them.
But, some claim such things by using quotes.

It is up to you if you want to follow them.
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Yeah the moment they open their mouth they quote somebody.
I noticed even respected Teachers in Zen do that...lol
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Who are you quoting?
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Everyone who has come before me .... in the thousand years or so, many words have been spoken.
I doubt if what I have said is new.
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Oct.26.2012
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Reply from zenmanstan
Oct.27.2012
07:44PM EDT 
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vertical line i  think love is when youre serving others so long you forget youre a self and you love unconditionally the other

theres a story about a family of birds who see some people below them, and thinking only of the others threw themselves in a fire so that the people could have food.
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Reply from football
Oct.27.2012
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vertical line Would you kill yourself for another? I wouldn't do that.
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Oct.27.2012
09:18PM EDT 
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vertical line is not the mother killing herself for her child daily when she makes food

and yes i have died and i will die again for the people
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Reply from football
Oct.28.2012
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vertical line you are stupid
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Oct.28.2012
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vertical line - I’m sorry miss but I am going to have to extract all your wisdom teeth.
- Oh no! I’d rather have a baby!
- Well, make up your mind so I can adjust the chair.
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Oct.28.2012
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vertical line i was just reading an interesting article, there are two ways one is a  path of self cherishing and ego and greed and materialsm, and the other way a path of cherishing others caring and loving them. One of them leads to ego, one of them leads to egolessness. The path of religion is not the ultimate, just a path, the ultimate is the golden rule: Love others as you love yourself.
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Reply from leoj99
Oct.28.2012
08:18PM EDT 
vertical line The golden rule is good to hear but rarely done in practice...
I think it is not practical..
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Reply from Joe Chip
Oct.28.2012
08:20PM EDT 
vertical line Take care. Thank you. And be simply wonderful to your myriad selves.
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Oct.29.2012
10:52AM EDT 
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Hello Sam.You are one of the rare person I understand what he says(talking about) at the forum.

I like your english.;)

good day

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I'm glad someone understands my nonsense and likes my English, even though I'm Welsh.  And it's true, I am a rare person - there's only one of me.

I wish you'd explain it to me. Then again, maybe not.

But whatever you do, don't quote me. :)
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Reply from Sam Hardy
Oct.29.2012
10:55AM EDT 
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And no, you'll never get enlightened by quoting .... not even forever ...
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Reply from Joe Chip
Oct.29.2012
11:58AM EDT 
vertical line How did you get enlightened?
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Reply from Sam Hardy
Oct.29.2012
12:26PM EDT 
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vertical line I can't remember. 
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Reply from Joe Chip
Oct.29.2012
12:30PM EDT 
vertical line Hey presto, you're enlightened.
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Reply from Sam Hardy
Oct.29.2012
12:35PM EDT 
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vertical line Yes, it's magic !!

Here’s my ‘quote’ of the day Joe:

We should not concern ourselves with the question of whether or not other people (or animals for that matter) are enlightened or were enlightened or will be enlightened. We must tend our own garden. I know I can’t stand it when someone else comes into my garden without my permission and starts weeding it, even if it does need weeding. Don’t they have their own garden, I ask them? And I send them away with a flea in their ear. 


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Reply from Sam Hardy
Oct.29.2012
12:38PM EDT 
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vertical line Ooooops I didn't mean to quote in such large letters or shout too loud. I thought the site would automatically adjust text to a standard size. 

I don't normally reply to myself.  I guess there must be two of me after all.  
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Oct.29.2012
12:40PM EDT 
vertical line I'm the garden in the gardener. I don't know anything about the enlightened; I don't know anything about enlightenment - I'm still harvesting tomatoes.
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Reply from boymonk
Oct.29.2012
03:22PM EDT 
vertical line Don't quote me but...

"Yes"
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Reply from Sam Hardy
Oct.29.2012
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Just re-read my quote of the day. It’s nonsense. Don’t know what I was thinking of.  Nobody’s ever come into my garden to weed it without my permission and no one ever will.  They’d have to be crazy.  I’ve always had to pay people to do that.

 I say the silliest things. So please don’t quote me.

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Oct.29.2012
09:13PM EDT 
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Hahaha u called uself football ????And u call people stupid :)
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Oct.29.2012
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Oct.29.2012
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Oct.29.2012
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Oct.29.2012
09:19PM EDT 
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vertical line How did you get enlightened?

I can't remember.


I can't remember either ... must have been asleep when it happened ... hahaha
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Oct.29.2012
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Oct.29.2012
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vertical line i dont get it joe chip are you saying im stupid or are you saying he was also calling football stupid. or are merely remarking on the mindstream
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Oct.29.2012
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vertical line and what does it help calling me stupid anyway, its no motivator.  i thought love was blind. people make fun of me all the time and what does it help? i only end up doing better for myself anyway, all you do is ruin my mindstream i have to sit and worry about having friends 
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Oct.29.2012
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vertical line The resto ain't worth merda. Amen. No?
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Oct.29.2012
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vertical line and thank you justin

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Reply from leoj99
Oct.30.2012
12:36AM EDT 
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And no, you'll never get enlightened by quoting .... not even forever ...
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So why are so many people are quoting and quoting especially in Zen Forums... look at very long posts...
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Oct.30.2012
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vertical line Quote: "Yes, it's magic !!

Here’s my ‘quote’ of the day Joe:

We should not concern ourselves with the question of whether or not other people (or animals for that matter) are enlightened or were enlightened or will be enlightened. We must tend our own garden. I know I can’t stand it when someone else comes into my garden without my permission and starts weeding it, even if it does need weeding. Don’t they have their own garden, I ask them? And I send them away with a flea in their ear. 


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So can't you make up your mind if you just want to garden... or want to post in a Zen Forum where people wants to enlighten others...lol
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Reply from Sam Hardy
Oct.30.2012
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vertical line With all this quoting and quoting going on, everybody must be enlightened.

So quote me and get enlightened.
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Oct.30.2012
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vertical line I'm a fool. I didn't get stupid quoting a football.
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Oct.31.2012
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So can't you make up your mind if you just want to garden... or want to post in a Zen Forum where people wants to enlighten others...lol
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Well, it would appear that I have fallen into self-contradiction.

Maybe I can learn how to be totally consistent, non-self-contradictory and non-paradoxical from you – but I somehow doubt it . Lol :)


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Nov.01.2012
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Nov.03.2012
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Reply from IZIZIZ
Nov.04.2012
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I noticed many people love to quote and quote. Are they enlightened by doing that?

Do you think that they are enlightened by doing that?

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Nov.04.2012
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vertical line Where will your mind move to next? Any half-formed ideas?
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