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One day Yao-shan Wei-yen (750-834), one of the well-known Chinese Ch'an master,
was asked by the host of the monastery to give his sermon to the assembly who
for a long while was expecting his teaching. Yao-shan said: "Strike the bell."

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		Posted on Oct.21.2012 @ 03:38AM EDT by justin the source of Buddhism is the Buddha, his message is passed on by sutras. If i do not know something and i have found the buddha's words ring true to me (through experience) as a begining point to my own experience. Then would not it make sense to not invent all amazing things to talk about such as enlightenment, satori and just in a way ask the buddha? (read the sutras?) and proceding this point experience the information? or should i run around sprouting all kinds of ideas of the top of my head? It is much harder to argue against sutras (and to continue to claim budhism as the source of the espoused ideas) when confronted with the source material. I think it is easy to forget what it is (buddhism/Zen) and so it is important to occasionally re read the source for clarity and path designation.
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Reply from justin Oct.21.2012 03:41AM EDT →Email justin		buddhism without buddhas teachings is Brahmaism :) (or something else again.
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Reply from justin Oct.21.2012 03:50AM EDT →Email justin		someone who understands the buddha also understands that the Dharma is only a raft to be left when it is not needed anymore. So they also understand the Dharma is only a begining point, and it is crutial to begin with the right preperation for the journey. (right understanding). But being the great teacher (buddha) he was i can see no reason to change the lessons unless i find a better way to teach them. And i am yet to find a better description of everything then the one occuring in the Diamond Sutra. It is important to understand the basics first. (if you can not see the dellusion how can you rid yourself of it?)
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Reply from leoj99 Oct.21.2012 04:27AM EDT		The first chapter of the Diamond Sutra covers all the teachings of Buddha. Diamond Sutra
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Reply from Joe Chip Oct.21.2012 07:40AM EDT		- At that I said, "Who art thou?" - He answered, "I am thy Perfect Nature. If thou wishest to see me, call me by my name."
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