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TOPIC: DO YOU DESPISE WHAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND? |
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Posted on Oct.28.2012 @ 07:32PM EDT by leoj99
So you despise what you don't understand?
It seems most people do.
I despise only what I understand.
Like thinking. I have been there all my like thinking.
Thats the only reason I came into Zen practice.
In Zen practice for many years I ended up despising thinking.
What do you think? Your Zen practice does not teach you that?
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Reply from leoj99
Oct.28.2012
07:33PM EDT
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Correction... all my life... |
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Reply from leoj99
Oct.28.2012
07:35PM EDT
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Or your Zen practice teach more thinking?...lol |
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Reply from Joe Chip
Oct.28.2012
07:54PM EDT
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I think you've got problems. |
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Reply from leoj99
Oct.28.2012
07:55PM EDT
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Quote: "I think you've got problems."
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How?
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Reply from leoj99
Oct.28.2012
07:56PM EDT
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Like Christians Pastors they always despise the Buddha...lol |
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Reply from leoj99
Oct.28.2012
07:57PM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "I think you've got problems."
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How?
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Did you know in Zen it is not what you think...lol
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Reply from Joe Chip
Oct.28.2012
08:04PM EDT
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Your ego despises. |
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Reply from leoj99
Oct.28.2012
08:08PM EDT
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Quote: "Your ego despises. "
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Pay attention.. I am not despising the thinkers... I am just despising what they are thinking... their thoughts...lol
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Reply from leoj99
Oct.28.2012
08:09PM EDT
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But its not my fault if their ego reacts... sometimes violently..lol |
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Reply from Joe Chip
Oct.28.2012
08:12PM EDT
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Exercise your option on this: I don't despise. |
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Reply from leoj99
Oct.28.2012
08:30PM EDT
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Quote: "Exercise your option on this: I don't despise. "
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Well in Zen its like just giving you a whack....lol
It is an impersonal thing.. why can't you despise a thought?
Does the thought gets hurt?
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Reply from leoj99
Oct.28.2012
08:32PM EDT
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And besides, as I said I have been in there for a very long time so I am familiar of the territory so I can put words into it. |
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Reply from Joe Chip
Oct.28.2012
08:33PM EDT
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Yes, thinking about zen is your territory. |
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Reply from leoj99
Oct.28.2012
08:52PM EDT
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Quote: "Yes, thinking about zen is your territory. "
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So can you tell something that makes sense?
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Reply from justin
Oct.28.2012
11:04PM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "Yes, thinking about zen is your territory. "
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So can you tell something that makes sense?
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this does not make sense to you? do you despise it now?
it makes total sense to me
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Reply from justin
Oct.28.2012
11:08PM EDT
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Quote: "And besides, as I said I have been in there for a very long time so I am familiar of the territory so I can put words into it.
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you have seriously missed the point, there is no 'you' to to have been anywhere for any amount of time. no time, no territory, no words, all mind created illusion. and with no self no familier.
so with no self what are u able to articulate?
can you tell this story without being in it yourself?
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Reply from leoj99
Oct.29.2012
12:26AM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "And besides, as I said I have been in there for a very long time so I am familiar of the territory so I can put words into it.
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you have seriously missed the point, there is no 'you' to to have been anywhere for any amount of time. no time, no territory, no words, all mind created illusion. and with no self no familier.
so with no self what are u able to articulate?
can you tell this story without being in it yourself?
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Can you please explain further...
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Reply from justin
Oct.29.2012
01:27AM EDT
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Any idea of self is illusion. Being self is differant to thoughts of self (this is sometyhing you have been ttrying to explain ??)
When you say I have done this or i have dione that you error. Not because of the thing being done but by the idea of a self doing those things.
When you think of something you are that thought, there is no seperation between thought and thing. So it is better to be reality and not thoughts of reality. (which are created illusion)
This is why it is said, when hungry eat and when tired sleep nothing more is needed.
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Reply from leoj99
Oct.29.2012
02:04AM EDT
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So what happens? |
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Reply from justin
Oct.29.2012
03:58AM EDT
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nothing, when hungry eat, when tired sleep. |
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Reply from starduster
Oct.29.2012
04:57AM EDT
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Quote: "So what happens? "
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Reassess your values.
It all up to you, about you. Whether a king on a throne, or in the castle dungeon.
Like in chess, it doesnt really matter how you got into the position youre in, good or bad. Consider all of your options, from there, and make the best move you can think of.
Zen is a good move. Brings about equanimity. Clears the mind of prejudices. Relaxes.
You are responsible for being the you that you want to be.
So, who is that ? |
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Reply from football
Oct.29.2012
05:49AM EDT
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Quote: "when hungry eat and when tired sleep."
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I take it as speak when you really need to. |
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Reply from football
Oct.29.2012
05:51AM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: " Pay attention.. I am not despising the thinkers... I am just despising what they are thinking... their thoughts...lol
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THIS SHOULD BE THE ONE'S ULTIMATE GOAL! |
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Reply from Joe Chip
Oct.29.2012
07:25AM EDT
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OWN GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLL
... the scorer has recorded a goal against your own team - as in, the aforementioned and professed imaginary, is despising the aforementioned and professed imaginary. |
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