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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: THE ISLAND
vertical line Posted on Oct.30.2012 @ 06:49AM EDT by starduster

Each of us is like an island.  We appear to be seperate, and separated, but we are not.

Below each island is a mountain that descends beneath the sea to the ocean floor where it is joined to the whole, the whole planet as it were, for the purposes of this metaphor.

The island is like the conscious mind, the ego self.  The mountain is like the subconscious, the egoless self.  And the whole planet is like the universal mind, which contains all the consciousnesses and subconsciousnesses as One.

Because the subconscious connects with the universal mind, everyone knows everything about everyone on a subconscious level.  There really are no secrets, or better yet, all of our secrets are the same.  All the more reason to be true to all concerned, even if you dont like them.

We are all connected to the universal mind by our subconscious minds.  Another metaphor I like to use is that of shoe, sock, and foot.  The conscious mind is like the shoe, hard for contact with the hard world.  The subconscious mind is like the sock and serves as a cusion between the hard shoe and foot.  The universal mind is the body as a whole, for whom the walking is made easier by way of the sock and shoe.

The universal mind lives vicariously through all of us.  Making the life experience better for everyone that you can improves the life experience for the One who we all really are.  Then again, when there is some drama, its all just part of the Grand Play after all.


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Reply from football
Oct.30.2012
06:58AM EDT 
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vertical line This serious! post but "Grand Play" made me laugh :))))))
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Oct.30.2012
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vertical line No man is an island, football is an island.
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Oct.30.2012
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vertical line I'm not an island. sit_teh is an island.
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Reply from Joe Chip
Oct.30.2012
08:15AM EDT 
vertical line Chipped into touch.
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Reply from shayne
Oct.30.2012
08:22AM EDT 
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vertical line im detached from moogly woogly.

yet i still stand.

edgar cayce.,.....not that smart.


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Oct.30.2012
08:27AM EDT 
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vertical line this is just a concept don.

a one sided system of belief you have attached too.


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Oct.30.2012
08:31AM EDT 
vertical line He's peninsular, you're the causeway.
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Oct.30.2012
08:44AM EDT 
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vertical line furthermore don.

your talking to a man who DONT believe in this subconcious concept either. i dont give it strength. i dont make it real.

i like physcology.....aspects....not all.


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Oct.30.2012
08:44AM EDT 
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Quote: "im detached from moogly woogly.

yet i still stand.

edgar cayce.,.....not that smart.


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At a party one night, everyone left the room for one reason or another, except for me and this hillbilly lookin dude.

He said, *Ever body thanks yore so schmart.  Well, I dont thank yore so schmart.*

I looked back at him and said, *No, I guess you wouldnt.*

Moral of the story is that to recognize intelligence requires intelligence.

Edgar Cayce was a brilliant and compassionate man, who helped others as much as he could.

Thats okay Shayne, from what the Spirit tells me, she doesnt like you either.

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Oct.30.2012
08:48AM EDT 
vertical line Shayne needs to get out more, the tide needs to come in more.
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Oct.30.2012
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vertical line oh yeah.....quess what....i like the hillbilly.

and he WAS correct.

man he must have missed my post about knowledge only being gleamed through our contact with the universe.....not solipism.

yeah just cause you could talk over the hillbilly dont make you smarter. just means your manipulative. wisdom take time.


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Oct.30.2012
08:52AM EDT 
vertical line Jurstis will be don own him.
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Oct.30.2012
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vertical line mankind is not smart enough to have made what is created.

so maybe to a moogly woogly.

but she made herself too.

so.

a one sided concept gone too far in my opinion.

man i am not worshipping anything.

just being with the world.

period.


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Oct.30.2012
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Quote: "this is just a concept don.

a one sided system of belief you have attached too.


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Ive tried to get along with you Shayne, to no avail.  Not even going to try anymore.

I dont know what *epiphany* you had at 13, but it was not an awakening.  That could not be more clear from your writings.

Im not even sure you have any psychic talents.  Its seems you guess, and if you guess right then you claims psychic skills, and if you dont then you blow it off.

You think youre going to take over the world, evidently as Maitreya, but there are a lot of people who think they are the second coming of something.  I not buying that Im the antichrist either, and you definitely better pray Im not.

We all are where we are on our own path, including you.  So I do respect that, anyway.  Its not your fault you are stupid.  Average IQ is 90 to 110, moron is 80 and below.  Id give you at least an 85, so its not so bad.

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Oct.30.2012
09:06AM EDT 
vertical line Be with me, because I am the world, and I eat the world.
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Oct.30.2012
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vertical line How can one be 85?
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Oct.30.2012
09:11AM EDT 
vertical line His name is Legion.
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Oct.30.2012
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Quote: "this is just a concept don.

a one sided system of belief you have attached too.


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Ive tried to get along with you Shayne, to no avail.  Not even going to try anymore.

I dont know what *epiphany* you had at 13, but it was not an awakening.  That could not be more clear from your writings.

Im not even sure you have any psychic talents.  Its seems you guess, and if you guess right then you claims psychic skills, and if you dont then you blow it off.

You think youre going to take over the world, evidently as Maitreya, but there are a lot of people who think they are the second coming of something.  I not buying that Im the antichrist either, and you definitely better pray Im not.

We all are where we are on our own path, including you.  So I do respect that, anyway.  Its not your fault you are stupid.  Average IQ is 90 to 110, moron is 80 and below.  Id give you at least an 85, so its not so bad.

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she couldnt stop me.

neither can you.

so.

well with my dumb old mind i did see you and her for what you are so.

i know someone who carries volumes of booklets containing their thoughts and ideas around with them

i want to so badly tell them. let it go. its fear. i used to jot down little ideas i had and refer back to them through the day. its fear of letting go.

and personally moogly woogly cant contend with herself cause shes too big.

she needs to find herself in her mess again.



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Oct.30.2012
09:39AM EDT 
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vertical line furthermore if being psychic means going through her id rather not be.

jesus was a awesome awesome man. said many good things.

but maybe he went through her too.

not saying a sure thing. or even true. just mere speculation.

so maybe jesus will return.....realize his slight mistake and become NON MIRACLE.




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Reply from Joe Chip
Oct.30.2012
09:54AM EDT 
vertical line The healthy twin undergoes mitosis.
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Oct.30.2012
10:00AM EDT 
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vertical line so who killed her again?

you using her or?

on her own behalf?

so shes real?

checkmate.
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Oct.30.2012
10:55AM EDT 
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Quote: "so who killed her again?

you using her or?

on her own behalf?

so shes real?

checkmate.
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I answered this on your *checkmate* thread.

We should play chess for money, I could use the dough.

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Oct.30.2012
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Quote: "furthermore if being psychic means going through her id rather not be.

jesus was a awesome awesome man. said many good things.

but maybe he went through her too.

not saying a sure thing. or even true. just mere speculation.

so maybe jesus will return.....realize his slight mistake and become NON MIRACLE.




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The Spirit comes to everyone in a manner unique to them.  To Moses, a burning bush, to Abraham and Noah, a voice from the sky.  To Jesus as a dove descending into him from above, when he was babtised.  To me in the form of a woman. (I used to call her baby, but she said, *Dont call me that.  Im not your baby, you are my baby.*  I call her honey, but I love it when she calls me baby.

Jesus was always careful to say, when performing miracles, *It is the father within who doeth the work*. 

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Oct.30.2012
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vertical line yeah.....good for them.

i dont wanna be psychic and there is nothing wrong with this.

and no miracles either.

yuck to that noise.


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Oct.30.2012
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vertical line i like normal...even keelness....and non ascention.

and THATS the buddha in me.

haha.


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