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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: THE ESSENCE OF THE MIND
vertical line Posted on Nov.01.2012 @ 02:24AM EDT by leoj99
The Essence of the Mind.

95.   A Letter to a Dying Man

Bassui wrote the following letter to one of his disciples who was about to die:

"The essence of your mind is not born, so it will never die. It is not an existence, which is perishable. It is not an emptiness, which is a mere void. It has neither color nor form. It enjoys no pleasures and suffers no pains.

"I know you are very ill. Liek a good Zen student, you are facing that sickness squarely. You may not know exactly who is suffering, but question yourself: What is the essence of this mind? Think only of this. You will need no more. Covet nothing. Your end which is endless is as a snowflake dissolving in the pure air."



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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.01.2012
07:56AM EDT 
vertical line Copy, right!
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.02.2012
12:49AM EDT 
vertical line "The essence of your mind is not born, so it will never die. It is not an existence, which is perishable. It is not an emptiness, which is a mere void. It has neither color nor form. It enjoys no pleasures and suffers no pains.


Wondering why they say in the other forum there is no mind.

While here the essence of the mind is something that was not born and will not die.

Are they talking of a different mind?
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Reply from esoteric
Nov.02.2012
09:28AM EDT 
vertical line Quote: ""The essence of your mind is not born, so it will never die. It is not an existence, which is perishable. It is not an emptiness, which is a mere void. It has neither color nor form. It enjoys no pleasures and suffers no pains.


Wondering why they say in the other forum there is no mind.

While here the essence of the mind is something that was not born and will not die.

Are they talking of a different mind?
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Who is asking?
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Reply from Avisitor
Nov.02.2012
10:39AM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: ""The essence of your mind is not born, so it will never die. It is not an existence, which is perishable. It is not an emptiness, which is a mere void. It has neither color nor form. It enjoys no pleasures and suffers no pains.


Wondering why they say in the other forum there is no mind.

While here the essence of the mind is something that was not born and will not die.

Are they talking of a different mind?
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No, they are speaking of the same mind but from different sides.
Using conceptual words to describe things that aren't a concept but more of an experience ... well, words just don't do it justice.

If you talk about this mind ... made from the aggregates of this body then there is no mind that survives death.
If you talk about the essence which is not made from aggregates then yes ... it is not something that is born and hence will not die.
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.02.2012
11:03AM EDT 
vertical line They, in the other forum?
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Reply from Avisitor
Nov.02.2012
11:04AM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "They, in the other forum?"
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No, you here and now!!!
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.02.2012
11:10AM EDT 
vertical line Cack-a-daddle-doo.
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.02.2012
11:22AM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "They, in the other forum?"
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Yeah in the other Forum you know. .. there is no other Zen Forum in my browser.

They say there is no mind as an object.. wondering what does mean.

Here I brought up the Essence of Mind... whats the difference..
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.02.2012
11:24AM EDT 
vertical line I don't know, that's between you and your browser.
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