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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: ZAZEN IS NOT EVEN 1% OF THE WORK IN ZEN
vertical line Posted on Nov.10.2012 @ 11:36AM EDT by leoj99
Sitting in zazen is not even 1% of the work in Zen.

But it seems many thinks that the whole practice of Zen is Zazen.

What do you think?

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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.10.2012
11:42AM EDT 
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Reply from esoteric
Nov.10.2012
05:35PM EDT 
vertical line Sitting zazen is the foundation of Zen. I don't know anything but one thing about percentages. Just, when you sit, sit 100%. When you eat, eat 100%. When you sleep, sleep 100%. Sitting, standing, walking, talking, working, sleeping, helping, or drinking tea...everything you do, do it 100%.
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.10.2012
09:14PM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "Sitting zazen is the foundation of Zen. I don't know anything but one thing about percentages. Just, when you sit, sit 100%. When you eat, eat 100%. When you sleep, sleep 100%. Sitting, standing, walking, talking, working, sleeping, helping, or drinking tea...everything you do, do it 100%. "
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But is 100% sitting includes watching your thoughts rises and falls?
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Reply from esoteric
Nov.10.2012
09:47PM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "Quote: "Sitting zazen is the foundation of Zen. I don't know anything but one thing about percentages. Just, when you sit, sit 100%. When you eat, eat 100%. When you sleep, sleep 100%. Sitting, standing, walking, talking, working, sleeping, helping, or drinking tea...everything you do, do it 100%. "
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But is 100% sitting includes watching your thoughts rises and falls?
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I'm not qualified to tell you what kind of zazen is right for you. But there are some things that do not change in the different zazen for different people.

Keep your back straight, legs crossed, hands in mudra, eyes partly open looking at the floor or wall in front of you. Watch your breathing. Sit 100%.

If sitting includes thoughts, then don't attach to your thoughts. That means, don't try to stop them and don't try to chase them either. Watch your breathing.

"Master, what is Zen?"
"Attention!"
"Isn't there more than that?"
"Attention attention!"
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.11.2012
01:15AM EDT 
vertical line Yeah thats about what zazen is...

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Keep your back straight, legs crossed, hands in mudra, eyes partly open looking at the floor or wall in front of you. Watch your breathing. Sit 100%.
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Reply from Avisitor
Nov.11.2012
03:16PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "Sitting zazen is the foundation of Zen. I don't know anything but one thing about percentages. Just, when you sit, sit 100%. When you eat, eat 100%. When you sleep, sleep 100%. Sitting, standing, walking, talking, working, sleeping, helping, or drinking tea...everything you do, do it 100%. "
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The idea is that when you practice the sitting, your mind becomes more focused on the actions of your life and therefore you live your life to the fullest. When hungry, you eat ... 100% .... hahahaha
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Reply from esoteric
Nov.11.2012
04:50PM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "Quote: "Sitting zazen is the foundation of Zen. I don't know anything but one thing about percentages. Just, when you sit, sit 100%. When you eat, eat 100%. When you sleep, sleep 100%. Sitting, standing, walking, talking, working, sleeping, helping, or drinking tea...everything you do, do it 100%. "
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The idea is that when you practice the sitting, your mind becomes more focused on the actions of your life and therefore you live your life to the fullest. When hungry, you eat ... 100% .... hahahaha
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Yes, so...if any activity includes thoughts, then don't attach to your thoughts. That means, don't try to stop them and don't try to chase them either. Watch your breathing. And if possible, keep your back straight.

Walking, standing, driving a car, listening and talking...keep your back straight and watch your breathing, and don't attach to thoughts. That's Zen practice.

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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.11.2012
04:53PM EDT 
vertical line The idea is ... yes ... so the idea is ...
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Reply from esoteric
Nov.11.2012
05:17PM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "The idea is ... yes ... so the idea is ..."
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Yes...still an idea until practiced to the point of no idea.

Wishing you a straight back and healthy breathing.
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Reply from Jonno1
Nov.12.2012
04:23AM EDT 
vertical line Hi all.i tend to see Zazen as not just sitting on ones cushion for however long, but rather practicing mindfulness throughout all of ones life, even as Thich Nhat Hanh says "when washing the dishes".If you are in mindfulness you are also in Zazen. Love to all Namaste
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Reply from esoteric
Nov.12.2012
04:36AM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "Hi all.i tend to see Zazen as not just sitting on ones cushion for however long, but rather practicing mindfulness throughout all of ones life, even as Thich Nhat Hanh says "when washing the dishes".If you are in mindfulness you are also in Zazen. Love to all Namaste"
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Welcome, Jonno. Yes, sitting-mind is not just for sitting. :-)
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.12.2012
04:39AM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "Hi all.i tend to see Zazen as not just sitting on ones cushion for however long, but rather practicing mindfulness throughout all of ones life, even as Thich Nhat Hanh says "when washing the dishes".If you are in mindfulness you are also in Zazen. Love to all Namaste"
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Well technically speaking zazen is sitting meditation.
Mindfulness is part of everyday living Zen..
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Reply from esoteric
Nov.12.2012
04:41AM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "Quote: "Hi all.i tend to see Zazen as not just sitting on ones cushion for however long, but rather practicing mindfulness throughout all of ones life, even as Thich Nhat Hanh says "when washing the dishes".If you are in mindfulness you are also in Zazen. Love to all Namaste"
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Well technically speaking zazen is sitting meditation.
Mindfulness is part of everyday living Zen..
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The mind can sit zazen, even when the body is washing dishes.
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.12.2012
04:43AM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Hi all.i tend to see Zazen as not just sitting on ones cushion for however long, but rather practicing mindfulness throughout all of ones life, even as Thich Nhat Hanh says "when washing the dishes".If you are in mindfulness you are also in Zazen. Love to all Namaste"
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Well technically speaking zazen is sitting meditation.
Mindfulness is part of everyday living Zen..
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The mind can sit zazen, even when the body is washing dishes.
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Are you sure it is sitting? lol
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Reply from esoteric
Nov.12.2012
05:24AM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Hi all.i tend to see Zazen as not just sitting on ones cushion for however long, but rather practicing mindfulness throughout all of ones life, even as Thich Nhat Hanh says "when washing the dishes".If you are in mindfulness you are also in Zazen. Love to all Namaste"
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Well technically speaking zazen is sitting meditation.
Mindfulness is part of everyday living Zen..
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The mind can sit zazen, even when the body is washing dishes.
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Are you sure it is sitting? lol
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Try and see.
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.12.2012
07:10AM EDT 
vertical line 99 - 1% short of a physics joke.
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Reply from Avisitor
Nov.12.2012
09:35AM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "Hi all.i tend to see Zazen as not just sitting on ones cushion for however long, but rather practicing mindfulness throughout all of ones life, even as Thich Nhat Hanh says "when washing the dishes".If you are in mindfulness you are also in Zazen. Love to all Namaste"
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The clarity one has in sitting is cultivated in one's daily life .... hahaha
Yes, true is all aspects and views ... only I hadn't a clue to what I was saying ... hahaha
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.12.2012
09:36AM EDT 
vertical line Don't worry, just throw your pizza on the barbecue.
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.12.2012
11:36AM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "99 - 1% short of a physics joke."
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Wow.. how did you figure that out?.... hahaha.,,,,
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.12.2012
11:49AM EDT 
vertical line But with more cheese.
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