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Posted on Nov.10.2012 @ 05:45PM EDT by leoj99
Emptiness.
So many people knows Emptiness. In fact they love to talk about emptiness. They sometimes say emptiness is not really empty. Sometimes they say emptiness is nothing. Everything is nothing and empty.
Indeed so many people love to talk about emptiness. Are they describing heir own emptiness? ...lol
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Reply from football
Nov.10.2012
06:12PM EDT
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Empty or full what does it matter? We are living a life. |
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Reply from Chryseis
Nov.10.2012
06:45PM EDT
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emptiness is devoid of mental constructs and representations, and thus it is full of true nature -reality |
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Reply from esoteric
Nov.10.2012
07:21PM EDT
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Before I drink tea, the cup is full. After I drink, the cup is empty.
Tea is tea. Cup is cup. Any child knows this.
So, drink the tea, then wash the cup and put it away. What else is there to say about it?
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.11.2012
12:20PM EDT
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Quote: "emptiness is devoid of mental constructs and representations, and thus it is full of true nature -reality"
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Yeah as in Stop thinking... eat watermelon...lol
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.11.2012
12:21PM EDT
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Stop thinking... jjjjjuuuusssst eat watermelon...lol |
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.11.2012
12:22PM EDT
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Quote: "Before I drink tea, the cup is full. After I drink, the cup is empty.
Tea is tea. Cup is cup. Any child knows this.
So, drink the tea, then wash the cup and put it away. What else is there to say about it?
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Yeah.. just do it...
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.11.2012
02:33PM EDT
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Go to work on an egg. |
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Reply from Avisitor
Nov.11.2012
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Quote: "Before I drink tea, the cup is full. After I drink, the cup is empty.
Tea is tea. Cup is cup. Any child knows this.
So, drink the tea, then wash the cup and put it away. What else is there to say about it?
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You are the cup!!!
So who drinks the tea and where does it go???
Any child knows that you can't be the very thing you consume
Taking a bite out of yourself doesn't help you.
When the cup is naturally empty, you find yourself ... emptiness is full of ... you ... hahaha
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.11.2012
03:03PM EDT
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Empty out you. |
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Reply from Avisitor
Nov.11.2012
03:20PM EDT
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Quote: "Empty out you."
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Taking a really good crap ... gives me the universe in a bucket ... hahaha
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Nov.11.2012
04:30PM EDT
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Just be empty, and there is no being empty, there is simply emptiness, a pure cause, a dance, going on giving, into the unknown, just this moment. Keep dancing! |
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Reply from Avisitor
Nov.11.2012
04:35PM EDT
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Quote: "Just be empty, and there is no being empty, there is simply emptiness, a pure cause, a dance, going on giving, into the unknown, just this moment. Keep dancing!"
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Thanks ... good advice ... will be ... just be ... empty ... haha
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Reply from esoteric
Nov.11.2012
05:04PM EDT
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You all drank the tea, but you keep playing with your cups. Wash the cups and put them away!
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Reply from football
Nov.11.2012
05:07PM EDT
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Nice. |
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.11.2012
05:44PM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "Just be empty, and there is no being empty, there is simply emptiness, a pure cause, a dance, going on giving, into the unknown, just this moment. Keep dancing!"
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Thanks ... good advice ... will be ... just be ... empty ... haha
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So how come you are so full of your thoughts. You refuse to give them up..
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Reply from esoteric
Nov.11.2012
05:48PM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Just be empty, and there is no being empty, there is simply emptiness, a pure cause, a dance, going on giving, into the unknown, just this moment. Keep dancing!"
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Thanks ... good advice ... will be ... just be ... empty ... haha
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So how come you are so full of your thoughts. You refuse to give them up..
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So, you yourself are empty of thoughts, and gave them all up. Where did you put them?
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.11.2012
06:08PM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Just be empty, and there is no being empty, there is simply emptiness, a pure cause, a dance, going on giving, into the unknown, just this moment. Keep dancing!"
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Thanks ... good advice ... will be ... just be ... empty ... haha
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So how come you are so full of your thoughts. You refuse to give them up..
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So, you yourself are empty of thoughts, and gave them all up. Where did you put them?
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Well I have said it somewhere that in my case Mu destroys them before they arise so I don't have that problem how to put them away and where to put them.
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Reply from boymonk
Nov.11.2012
06:08PM EDT
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Emptiness is like a flower in the field, all pretty and nice, but once you pick the flower it must be eaten. Howz that for putting a flower in your mouth! |
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Reply from esoteric
Nov.11.2012
07:13PM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Just be empty, and there is no being empty, there is simply emptiness, a pure cause, a dance, going on giving, into the unknown, just this moment. Keep dancing!"
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Thanks ... good advice ... will be ... just be ... empty ... haha
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So how come you are so full of your thoughts. You refuse to give them up..
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So, you yourself are empty of thoughts, and gave them all up. Where did you put them?
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Well I have said it somewhere that in my case Mu destroys them before they arise so I don't have that problem how to put them away and where to put them.
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So how come you are so full of Mu and refuse to give it up?
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.11.2012
07:20PM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Just be empty, and there is no being empty, there is simply emptiness, a pure cause, a dance, going on giving, into the unknown, just this moment. Keep dancing!"
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Thanks ... good advice ... will be ... just be ... empty ... haha
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So how come you are so full of your thoughts. You refuse to give them up..
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So, you yourself are empty of thoughts, and gave them all up. Where did you put them?
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Well I have said it somewhere that in my case Mu destroys them before they arise so I don't have that problem how to put them away and where to put them.
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So how come you are so full of Mu and refuse to give it up?
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Because how can you give up Mu? It is not something you have. It is not something you possess.
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Reply from esoteric
Nov.11.2012
07:33PM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Just be empty, and there is no being empty, there is simply emptiness, a pure cause, a dance, going on giving, into the unknown, just this moment. Keep dancing!"
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Thanks ... good advice ... will be ... just be ... empty ... haha
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So how come you are so full of your thoughts. You refuse to give them up..
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So, you yourself are empty of thoughts, and gave them all up. Where did you put them?
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Well I have said it somewhere that in my case Mu destroys them before they arise so I don't have that problem how to put them away and where to put them.
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So how come you are so full of Mu and refuse to give it up?
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Because how can you give up Mu? It is not something you have. It is not something you possess.
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You have it and possess it. The Mu is yours. It is your Mu.
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.11.2012
07:35PM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Just be empty, and there is no being empty, there is simply emptiness, a pure cause, a dance, going on giving, into the unknown, just this moment. Keep dancing!"
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Thanks ... good advice ... will be ... just be ... empty ... haha
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So how come you are so full of your thoughts. You refuse to give them up..
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So, you yourself are empty of thoughts, and gave them all up. Where did you put them?
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Well I have said it somewhere that in my case Mu destroys them before they arise so I don't have that problem how to put them away and where to put them.
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So how come you are so full of Mu and refuse to give it up?
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Because how can you give up Mu? It is not something you have. It is not something you possess.
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You have it and possess it. The Mu is yours. It is your Mu.
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Why? Please explain...
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Reply from esoteric
Nov.11.2012
07:38PM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Just be empty, and there is no being empty, there is simply emptiness, a pure cause, a dance, going on giving, into the unknown, just this moment. Keep dancing!"
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Thanks ... good advice ... will be ... just be ... empty ... haha
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So how come you are so full of your thoughts. You refuse to give them up..
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So, you yourself are empty of thoughts, and gave them all up. Where did you put them?
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Well I have said it somewhere that in my case Mu destroys them before they arise so I don't have that problem how to put them away and where to put them.
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So how come you are so full of Mu and refuse to give it up?
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Because how can you give up Mu? It is not something you have. It is not something you possess.
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You have it and possess it. The Mu is yours. It is your Mu.
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Why? Please explain...
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I can't explain, it's not my Mu. It's yours. Just explain it to yourself.
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.11.2012
07:45PM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Just be empty, and there is no being empty, there is simply emptiness, a pure cause, a dance, going on giving, into the unknown, just this moment. Keep dancing!"
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Thanks ... good advice ... will be ... just be ... empty ... haha
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So how come you are so full of your thoughts. You refuse to give them up..
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So, you yourself are empty of thoughts, and gave them all up. Where did you put them?
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Well I have said it somewhere that in my case Mu destroys them before they arise so I don't have that problem how to put them away and where to put them.
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So how come you are so full of Mu and refuse to give it up?
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Because how can you give up Mu? It is not something you have. It is not something you possess.
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You have it and possess it. The Mu is yours. It is your Mu.
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Why? Please explain...
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I can't explain, it's not my Mu. It's yours. Just explain it to yourself.
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So how can you tell I have it then?
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Nov.11.2012
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Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Just be empty, and there is no being empty, there is simply emptiness, a pure cause, a dance, going on giving, into the unknown, just this moment. Keep dancing!"
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Thanks ... good advice ... will be ... just be ... empty ... haha
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So how come you are so full of your thoughts. You refuse to give them up..
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I'm sorry fi you see it that way.
Guess there is no way to satisfy you.
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.11.2012
08:17PM EDT
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Once more, this time with FEELING. |
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Reply from Avisitor
Nov.11.2012
08:27PM EDT
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Quote: "Once more, this time with FEELING."
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Put a sock in it ... will ya??!!
Nothing worse than a peanut gallery with an actual peanut .... hahaha
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Reply from esoteric
Nov.11.2012
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Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Just be empty, and there is no being empty, there is simply emptiness, a pure cause, a dance, going on giving, into the unknown, just this moment. Keep dancing!"
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Thanks ... good advice ... will be ... just be ... empty ... haha
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So how come you are so full of your thoughts. You refuse to give them up..
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So, you yourself are empty of thoughts, and gave them all up. Where did you put them?
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Well I have said it somewhere that in my case Mu destroys them before they arise so I don't have that problem how to put them away and where to put them.
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So how come you are so full of Mu and refuse to give it up?
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Because how can you give up Mu? It is not something you have. It is not something you possess.
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You have it and possess it. The Mu is yours. It is your Mu.
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Why? Please explain...
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I can't explain, it's not my Mu. It's yours. Just explain it to yourself.
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So how can you tell I have it then?
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Because you said, "Well I have said it somewhere that in my case Mu destroys them before they arise so I don't have that problem how to put them away and where to put them."
So, it's your Mu. I just wonder where you keep it.
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.11.2012
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Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Just be empty, and there is no being empty, there is simply emptiness, a pure cause, a dance, going on giving, into the unknown, just this moment. Keep dancing!"
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Thanks ... good advice ... will be ... just be ... empty ... haha
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So how come you are so full of your thoughts. You refuse to give them up..
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So, you yourself are empty of thoughts, and gave them all up. Where did you put them?
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Well I have said it somewhere that in my case Mu destroys them before they arise so I don't have that problem how to put them away and where to put them.
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So how come you are so full of Mu and refuse to give it up?
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Because how can you give up Mu? It is not something you have. It is not something you possess.
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You have it and possess it. The Mu is yours. It is your Mu.
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Why? Please explain...
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I can't explain, it's not my Mu. It's yours. Just explain it to yourself.
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So how can you tell I have it then?
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Because you said, "Well I have said it somewhere that in my case Mu destroys them before they arise so I don't have that problem how to put them away and where to put them."
So, it's your Mu. I just wonder where you keep it.
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Ah yes, when sitting in zazen I breath in.. awareness and breath out Muuuuuu... thats it.. it destroy the thoughts before they arise... Mu is my breath out.. so how can i give it away...
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Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Just be empty, and there is no being empty, there is simply emptiness, a pure cause, a dance, going on giving, into the unknown, just this moment. Keep dancing!"
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Thanks ... good advice ... will be ... just be ... empty ... haha
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So how come you are so full of your thoughts. You refuse to give them up..
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So, you yourself are empty of thoughts, and gave them all up. Where did you put them?
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Well I have said it somewhere that in my case Mu destroys them before they arise so I don't have that problem how to put them away and where to put them.
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So how come you are so full of Mu and refuse to give it up?
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Because how can you give up Mu? It is not something you have. It is not something you possess.
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You have it and possess it. The Mu is yours. It is your Mu.
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Why? Please explain...
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I can't explain, it's not my Mu. It's yours. Just explain it to yourself.
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So how can you tell I have it then?
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Because you said, "Well I have said it somewhere that in my case Mu destroys them before they arise so I don't have that problem how to put them away and where to put them."
So, it's your Mu. I just wonder where you keep it.
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Ah yes, when sitting in zazen I breath in.. awareness and breath out Muuuuuu... thats it.. it destroy the thoughts before they arise... Mu is my breath out.. so how can i give it away...
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Ah, so it's not actually some thing called "Mu", it's just making the sound Mu with your voice and mouth that destroys thoughts, when breathing out in zazen. I understand now.
But, what about thoughts when breathing in, and when not in zazen? There is no breathing out "Muuuuuu" at those times, right?
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Reply from shayne
Nov.12.2012
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our best bet esoteric is to totally ignore him.
hes unwilling to change.
plays dumb.
so.
he have made up his mind.
im begining to wonder if its starduster.
haha.
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Nov.12.2012
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Quote: "our best bet esoteric is to totally ignore him.
hes unwilling to change.
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so.
he have made up his mind.
im begining to wonder if its starduster.
haha.
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You're mistaken. He has great courage and determination, and is putting forth lots of effort. A good try-mind. And ignoring people isn't so good, anyway.
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.12.2012
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Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Just be empty, and there is no being empty, there is simply emptiness, a pure cause, a dance, going on giving, into the unknown, just this moment. Keep dancing!"
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Thanks ... good advice ... will be ... just be ... empty ... haha
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So how come you are so full of your thoughts. You refuse to give them up..
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So, you yourself are empty of thoughts, and gave them all up. Where did you put them?
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Well I have said it somewhere that in my case Mu destroys them before they arise so I don't have that problem how to put them away and where to put them.
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So how come you are so full of Mu and refuse to give it up?
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Because how can you give up Mu? It is not something you have. It is not something you possess.
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You have it and possess it. The Mu is yours. It is your Mu.
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Why? Please explain...
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I can't explain, it's not my Mu. It's yours. Just explain it to yourself.
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So how can you tell I have it then?
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Because you said, "Well I have said it somewhere that in my case Mu destroys them before they arise so I don't have that problem how to put them away and where to put them."
So, it's your Mu. I just wonder where you keep it.
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Ah yes, when sitting in zazen I breath in.. awareness and breath out Muuuuuu... thats it.. it destroy the thoughts before they arise... Mu is my breath out.. so how can i give it away...
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Ah, so it's not actually some thing called "Mu", it's just making the sound Mu with your voice and mouth that destroys thoughts, when breathing out in zazen. I understand now.
But, what about thoughts when breathing in, and when not in zazen? There is no breathing out "Muuuuuu" at those times, right?
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Nope breathing in does not produce too..
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.12.2012
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breathing in does not produce thoughts too.
While not in zazen.. if you can do it in zazen.. it will follow that they won't arise to because you understand that thoughts are nothing but empty.. so whats the point of producing them... .. its only a waste of time and energy...lol
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Nov.12.2012
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If you can't beat 'em, flatter 'em - c'mon, you can ham it up better than that. |
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Reply from shayne
Nov.12.2012
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Quote: "Quote: "our best bet esoteric is to totally ignore him.
hes unwilling to change.
plays dumb.
so.
he have made up his mind.
im begining to wonder if its starduster.
haha.
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You're mistaken. He has great courage and determination, and is putting forth lots of effort. A good try-mind. And ignoring people isn't so good, anyway.
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yeah perhaps your right. i can see this now that you mention it.
still delusional but oh well i quess.
haha.
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Nov.12.2012
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Reply from BlankName
Nov.12.2012
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O Mu...
'No' Stage, 'No' Object, 'No' Attainment, 'No' Name, 'No' Color |
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Reply from esoteric
Nov.13.2012
12:56AM EDT
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Quote: "breathing in does not produce thoughts too.
While not in zazen.. if you can do it in zazen.. it will follow that they won't arise to because you understand that thoughts are nothing but empty.. so whats the point of producing them... .. its only a waste of time and energy...lol
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"Waste of time and energy" is a thought you produced. It seems that one slipped right through Mu, and arose anyway. :-)
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.13.2012
06:58AM EDT
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Musicians Union - ya had to be there. |
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