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Posted on Nov.11.2012 @ 02:00AM EDT by leoj99
Ego blocking Enlightenment.
From BabyBuddha:
Jage wrote:Wondering what the Ego is doing to prevent us from getting enlightened.
Lets pretend for a moment
that the waterfall is the ego...
Imagine sitting on a green grass close
by a tall magnificent waterfall.
Much of the time all you can
see is the waterfall or hearing
constant trashing noise it makes, don't you agree ?
After sometimes the water above runs dry...
the noise abruptly stops, what happens then ?
A scripted stone is reveal behind the waterfall,
You can hear birds chirping.
The lake is no longer trashing and calm
yet the water from the waterfall is still there.
The waterfall cannot see the stone,
the waterfall cannot hear the chirping.
For even the briefest moment When the constant
noise (chatting, thinking, creating, mind activities etc.)
feeding the ego is all of sudden stopped
silence set in, another dimension is revealed.
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.11.2012
11:54AM EDT
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So your Ego is working good for you?....lol |
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Reply from Avisitor
Nov.11.2012
01:47PM EDT
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Quote: "So your Ego is working good for you?....lol
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Yes it is ... hahaha
When a baby is born, it has no ego .. and yet, it is not enlightened.
The truth is that all humans are born with a condition that influence the perception of the world.
The instance one perceives an object, filters are applied that influences the way one perceives the object.
Filters like aversion, greed, infatuations, cravings, delusions, etc.
So, one practices sitting in perfection ... Zazen ... to see past the filters and see the truth of our nature.
Sorry, I', rambling. Excuse the crazy talk of an old man.
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.11.2012
02:18PM EDT
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Pretending for a moment won't do you no good. |
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Reply from Avisitor
Nov.11.2012
03:03PM EDT
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Quote: "Pretending for a moment won't do you no good."
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The moment is here and now ... it goes on forever ....
Show me your moment ... hahaha
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.11.2012
03:05PM EDT
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With forever, you'll always be limited. |
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Reply from Avisitor
Nov.11.2012
03:18PM EDT
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Quote: "With forever, you'll always be limited. "
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The limit is your understanding that there is a limit ... hahaha
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.11.2012
04:45PM EDT
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< Forever < > Limit > - the syzygy of the conflict between opposite poles. |
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Reply from esoteric
Nov.11.2012
05:10PM EDT
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Quote: "< Forever < > Limit > - the syzygy of the conflict between opposite poles. "
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I got your opposite poles right here.
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.11.2012
05:38PM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "So your Ego is working good for you?....lol
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Yes it is ... hahaha
When a baby is born, it has no ego .. and yet, it is not enlightened.
The truth is that all humans are born with a condition that influence the perception of the world.
The instance one perceives an object, filters are applied that influences the way one perceives the object.
Filters like aversion, greed, infatuations, cravings, delusions, etc.
So, one practices sitting in perfection ... Zazen ... to see past the filters and see the truth of our nature.
Sorry, I', rambling. Excuse the crazy talk of an old man.
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So what is the truth of all human beings?
Wondering why you always have a disclaimer like those advertisement things... written in fine letters so you cannot read or they talk very fast so you won't understand it...lol
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.11.2012
05:40PM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "Pretending for a moment won't do you no good."
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The moment is here and now ... it goes on forever ....
Show me your moment ... hahaha
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I thought you said every is impermanent.. there is no such thing a forever...lol
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Reply from boymonk
Nov.11.2012
06:09PM EDT
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Your ego could block an air craft carrier from docking. But not from flocking. |
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.11.2012
06:11PM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Pretending for a moment won't do you no good."
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The moment is here and now ... it goes on forever ....
Show me your moment ... hahaha
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I thought you said every is impermanent.. there is no such thing a forever...lol
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Correction.. everything...
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Reply from Avisitor
Nov.11.2012
08:30PM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Pretending for a moment won't do you no good."
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The moment is here and now ... it goes on forever ....
Show me your moment ... hahaha
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I thought you said every is impermanent.. there is no such thing a forever...lol
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Each moment is infinite and impermanent ... do what you want ... you always have ...
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Reply from esoteric
Nov.11.2012
11:37PM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Pretending for a moment won't do you no good."
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The moment is here and now ... it goes on forever ....
Show me your moment ... hahaha
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I thought you said every is impermanent.. there is no such thing a forever...lol
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Each moment is infinite and impermanent ... do what you want ... you always have ...
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What do you want, here and now?
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.12.2012
03:04AM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Pretending for a moment won't do you no good."
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The moment is here and now ... it goes on forever ....
Show me your moment ... hahaha
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I thought you said every is impermanent.. there is no such thing a forever...lol
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Each moment is infinite and impermanent ... do what you want ... you always have ...
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Infinite and impermanent... it seems to me there is a contradiction on that statement... how can an infinite impermanent...
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.12.2012
07:40AM EDT
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Tangled up in MU. |
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Reply from Avisitor
Nov.12.2012
09:30AM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Pretending for a moment won't do you no good."
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The moment is here and now ... it goes on forever ....
Show me your moment ... hahaha
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I thought you said every is impermanent.. there is no such thing a forever...lol
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Each moment is infinite and impermanent ... do what you want ... you always have ...
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What do you want, here and now?
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Here and now is all you really have ... hahaha
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Reply from esoteric
Nov.12.2012
09:54AM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Pretending for a moment won't do you no good."
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The moment is here and now ... it goes on forever ....
Show me your moment ... hahaha
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I thought you said every is impermanent.. there is no such thing a forever...lol
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Each moment is infinite and impermanent ... do what you want ... you always have ...
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What do you want, here and now?
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Here and now is all you really have ... hahaha
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What will you do with it, now that you have it?
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.12.2012
09:56AM EDT
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He'll beat it. |
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Reply from Sam Hardy
Nov.13.2012
06:07AM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Pretending for a moment won't do you no good."
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The moment is here and now ... it goes on forever ....
Show me your moment ... hahaha
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I thought you said every is impermanent.. there is no such thing a forever...lol
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Each moment is infinite and impermanent ... do what you want ... you always have ...
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Infinite and impermanent... it seems to me there is a contradiction on that statement... how can an infinite impermanent...
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Infinite and impermanent are not opposites.
Our ignorance can be infinite but it’s still impermanent (at
least I hope so in most cases) lol.
Infinite and non infinite are opposites.
Impermanent and permanent are opposites.
In terms of logic.
To the dualistic mind the statement that ‘something can be infinite and
impermanent’ is a self-contradiction.
So my 'advice' is, Leo, get into a nondualistic state of mind
and the contradiction will be seen to disappear, or as impermanent. lol
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Reply from esoteric
Nov.13.2012
09:22AM EDT
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Everything is uncountable and undergoes constant change.
Except one thing.
Accept one thing.
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.13.2012
10:50AM EDT
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Presence is not a thing. |
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.13.2012
10:51AM EDT
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Anyway, leave me alone thing ... hahahahahaha |
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.13.2012
11:15AM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Pretending for a moment won't do you no good."
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The moment is here and now ... it goes on forever ....
Show me your moment ... hahaha
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I thought you said every is impermanent.. there is no such thing a forever...lol
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Each moment is infinite and impermanent ... do what you want ... you always have ...
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Infinite and impermanent... it seems to me there is a contradiction on that statement... how can an infinite impermanent...
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Infinite and impermanent are not opposites.
Our ignorance can be infinite but it’s still impermanent (at
least I hope so in most cases) lol.
Infinite and non infinite are opposites.
Impermanent and permanent are opposites.
In terms of logic.
To the dualistic mind the statement that ‘something can be infinite and
impermanent’ is a self-contradiction.
So my 'advice' is, Leo, get into a nondualistic state of mind
and the contradiction will be seen to disappear, or as impermanent. lol
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So can you explain to me what is a nondualistic state of mind.
Or what is a nondualistic mind.
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Reply from football
Nov.13.2012
12:00PM EDT
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bail out |
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Reply from esoteric
Nov.13.2012
06:53PM EDT
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Quote: "Presence is not a thing."
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No presence for you. Happy birthday!
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Nov.13.2012
06:56PM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Pretending for a moment won't do you no good."
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The moment is here and now ... it goes on forever ....
Show me your moment ... hahaha
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I thought you said every is impermanent.. there is no such thing a forever...lol
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Each moment is infinite and impermanent ... do what you want ... you always have ...
"
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Infinite and impermanent... it seems to me there is a contradiction on that statement... how can an infinite impermanent...
"
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Infinite and impermanent are not opposites.
Our ignorance can be infinite but it’s still impermanent (at
least I hope so in most cases) lol.
Infinite and non infinite are opposites.
Impermanent and permanent are opposites.
In terms of logic.
To the dualistic mind the statement that ‘something can be infinite and
impermanent’ is a self-contradiction.
So my 'advice' is, Leo, get into a nondualistic state of mind
and the contradiction will be seen to disappear, or as impermanent. lol
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So can you explain to me what is a nondualistic state of mind.
Or what is a nondualistic mind.
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Okay, so one time, when I was camping...
Wait, who am I explaining this to?
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Reply from Sam Hardy
Nov.14.2012
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Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Pretending for a moment won't do you no good."
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The moment is here and now ... it goes on forever ....
Show me your moment ... hahaha
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I thought you said every is impermanent.. there is no such thing a forever...lol
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Each moment is infinite and impermanent ... do what you want ... you always have ...
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Infinite and impermanent... it seems to me there is a contradiction on that statement... how can an infinite impermanent...
"
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Infinite and impermanent are not opposites.
Our ignorance can be infinite but it’s still impermanent (at
least I hope so in most cases) lol.
Infinite and non infinite are opposites.
Impermanent and permanent are opposites.
In terms of logic.
To the dualistic mind the statement that ‘something can be infinite and
impermanent’ is a self-contradiction.
So my 'advice' is, Leo, get into a nondualistic state of mind
and the contradiction will be seen to disappear, or as impermanent. lol
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So can you explain to me what is a nondualistic state of mind.
Or what is a nondualistic mind.
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That's the $64.000 question.
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Reply from Sam Hardy
Nov.14.2012
05:34AM EDT
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Only kidding. The question is worth a lot more than $64.000.
We all practise Zen to find that out for ourselves. :) |
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Nov.14.2012
07:35AM EDT
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Stand a little out of my sun. |
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Reply from football
Nov.14.2012
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Quote: "Only kidding. The question is worth a lot more than $64.000.
We all practise Zen to find that out for ourselves. :) "
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Where do you look to find out? |
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Nov.14.2012
08:51AM EDT
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What is that to you? |
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Reply from floating_a
Nov.14.2012
04:42PM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "With forever, you'll always be limited. "
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The limit is your understanding that there is a limit ... hahaha
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I think Joe is just trying to kindly point out to you the limits of belief/understanding
Gassho
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Reply from shayne
Nov.14.2012
07:18PM EDT
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i cant find my ego.
if anything......it is a make believe false image of ourselves.
a idea.
but......just not a reality at all.
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Reply from floating_a
Nov.15.2012
02:54PM EDT
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Quote: "i cant find my ego.
if anything......it is a make believe false image of ourselves.
a idea.
but......just not a reality at all.
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Actually, it is a reality as well.
Try to be kinder, Shane.
Best wishes,
Abu
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