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  Posted on Aug.11.2009 @ 08:05PM EDT by chontri
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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: MU IS THOUGHTS DESTROYER.
vertical line Posted on Nov.11.2012 @ 02:17AM EDT by leoj99
Mu is Thoughts Destroyer.

How can you think of Mu. The moment you try to think Mu your thoughts are already destroyed forever...lol

Mu the thought destroyer. Try it and prove it yourself if it is not true and tell me if not correct...lol

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Reply from leoj99
Nov.11.2012
02:20AM EDT 
vertical line Mu is popular because no one can figure it out...lol..

Mu is popular not because many understands it but because many don't understand it.
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.11.2012
02:28AM EDT 
vertical line That is why Joshu is a Great Zen Master. A master with very few words.

A monk asked Joshu: Does a dog has Buddha Nature or not?

Joshu answered:  Mu...

Thats it....lol
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.11.2012
02:31AM EDT 
vertical line And Mu is very popular... even though only very few understands...lol

And Mu has endured the tests of eons of times...
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.11.2012
02:48AM EDT 
vertical line Thats why my Zazen practice is breath in awareness and breath out Muuuuuuuuu..... it destroys the thoughts before it arises... so no energy is uselessly used in watching thoughts arises and falls...

Imagine if years and years of zazen you are always watching your thoughts.. how much energy have you expended.. maybe you have used all the energy that you save while sitting in zazen..

Zazen is saving energy so you have Joriki to enable you to get enlightened... If you are spending your Joriki while you are building it up then you may even end up paying for it.. you have bad credit...lol
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Reply from football
Nov.11.2012
04:07AM EDT 
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vertical line I understand Mu as the end and also the begining.When you come(reach) the Mu Self discovery begins and when you understand the Mu, Self discovery ends.
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Reply from shayne
Nov.11.2012
04:55AM EDT 
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vertical line self looks for self.

that which looks for self is it.

once you see this THEN self discovery.

and hardly ever a end to questioning.

mu is meaningless too btw.

a made up word to bring you possiably toward enlightenment.

furthermore thoughts are not bad.

when thinking think.

when not thinking its not thinking.

a struggle between two polarity opposite concepts is not good.

for both are your own self.

psst psst.....leo?

this means YOU!

read....reflect...wake up a little more.

stop your attachment.




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Reply from football
Nov.11.2012
05:22AM EDT 
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vertical line Mu is meaningless? I hadn't thought this way.May be my journey havent get started yet. haha
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.11.2012
08:13AM EDT 
vertical line ha ha
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Reply from shayne
Nov.11.2012
08:51AM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "Mu is meaningless? I hadn't thought this way.May be my journey havent get started yet. haha"
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made up word.

im fairly sure their is no defination to it.

not sure.

i used it for a year one time.

didnt say it wasnt good.


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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.11.2012
08:53AM EDT 
vertical line Classic.
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.11.2012
11:25AM EDT 
vertical line Actually that is really true. That Mu is meaningless.

For how could you find meaning of Mu when you don't remember anything about Mu. You cannot even imagine Mu. So how could you find the meaning of Mu. So Mu is meaningless.

If you see a beautiful red rose are you looking for its meaning?
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.11.2012
11:25AM EDT 
vertical line Meaning is no meaning.
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Nov.11.2012
11:26AM EDT 
vertical line Meaning is no meaning.
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Reply from so_teh
Nov.11.2012
02:43PM EDT 
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vertical line Destruction is a form of creation.
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.11.2012
02:49PM EDT 
vertical line You MUtha ...
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Nov.11.2012
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Quote: "Actually that is really true. That Mu is meaningless.

For how could you find meaning of Mu when you don't remember anything about Mu. You cannot even imagine Mu. So how could you find the meaning of Mu. So Mu is meaningless.

If you see a beautiful red rose are you looking for its meaning?
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Mu is an answer.Question-answer.See?

If it is meaningless, what is it that many Zen practioners are ponder on for over centuries?

On the other hand you can not show me a single thing that is meaningless.

All the things that I perceive has a meaning.

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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.11.2012
02:57PM EDT 
vertical line The signature of all things.
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Reply from Avisitor
Nov.11.2012
02:58PM EDT 
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vertical line The practice is the awareness. Watching as thoughts arise and letting them go.
It isn't to destroy thought. It isn't to stop all thought.
It is a state where thought naturally and organically stop by themselves.
You have this stopping thought and killing thought all wrong.
You will never find what you seek by killing ... thoughts or anything else ... hahaha
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.11.2012
03:00PM EDT 
vertical line This is the practice.
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Nov.11.2012
03:21PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "This is the practice. "
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Yes, yes ,, .. that is it ... you finally have it wright ... hahaha
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Reply from esoteric
Nov.11.2012
05:00PM EDT 
vertical line "Mu" is just a word. Getting attached to it is the same as getting attached to the word "God" or "sex" or "money".
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Reply from football
Nov.11.2012
05:09PM EDT 
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vertical line On the other hand, if you dont attached to "Mu", you lost Mu.
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Reply from esoteric
Nov.11.2012
05:25PM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "On the other hand, if you dont attached to "Mu", you lost Mu."
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Don't need it.
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Reply from esoteric
Nov.11.2012
05:32PM EDT 
vertical line "'This raft, indeed, has been very helpful to me. Carried by it, laboring with hands and feet, I got safely across to the other shore. Should I lift this raft on my head or on my shoulders, and go on? No. I should pull it up now to the dry land, or leave it in the water, and then go as I please.' By acting thus would a person do what should be done with a raft. In the same way, I show to you the Teaching's similitude to a raft: as having the purpose of crossing over, not the purpose of being clung to."

— Gautama Buddha, Alagaddupama Sutta 13
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.12.2012
07:50AM EDT 
vertical line Keep paddling.
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Reply from esoteric
Nov.12.2012
08:31AM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "Keep paddling."
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I'm having a cup of coffee. Good morning to you, Joe.
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Reply from Sam Hardy
Nov.12.2012
09:22AM EDT 
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Leo you are a truly amazing being.

You not only have all the answers but you appear to have all the questions as well

You are a one-man Q & A session.  How many of you are there? is that why you put 99 after your name??

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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.12.2012
09:33AM EDT 
vertical line Let's encourage them in their corruption.
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Reply from Sam Hardy
Nov.12.2012
09:48AM EDT 
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To keep it impersonal, I think the sage in us asks the questions and the fool in us answers them. Though it might be the other way round.  I don't even know what it meansWhat do I know?

 

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Nov.12.2012
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To keep it impersonal, I think the sage in us asks the questions and the fool in us answers them. Though it might be the other way round.  I don't even know what it meansWhat do I know?

 

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I'm having a cup of coffee. Good morning to you, Sam.
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.12.2012
11:25AM EDT 
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Leo you are a truly amazing being.

You not only have all the answers but you appear to have all the questions as well

You are a one-man Q & A session.  How many of you are there? is that why you put 99 after your name??

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Correction.. my name is Leoj + 99...  99 is my bet... that no one knows the answers to my questions...hahaha.. 99 cents..
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Nov.12.2012
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Correction.. my name is Leoj + 99...  99 is my bet... that no one knows the answers to my questions...hahaha.. 99 cents..
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Didn't know you were a gambling man, LeoJ. No one's perfect.  I guessed you were a cent short of a full dollar. lol


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