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  A wandering monk called Vaccha asked the Buddha if the Buddha would still exsist after death. The Buddha replied:
"Vaccha, the idea that I would exist or not exist after death - such ideas lead to dense jungles and arid deserts, to entanglements... continue...

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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: SYMPTOMS OF ENLIGHTENED AND UNENLIGHTENED BEINGS
vertical line Posted on Nov.11.2012 @ 06:32PM EDT by leoj99
Symptoms of Enlightened and Unenlightened Beings

Definitely their symptoms are completely different in Zen Forums.

My observations are that unenlightened beings always gives advices. They almost always seems to know what is bests for others.
So they tell other people what to do. They think they are enlightened and the others are not. They make long posts and it is not clear if they are trying to confuse other people or they are confused themselves.
If you ask them what did they really said they get irritated.

Enlightened beings seems to be not telling anything. If you tell them anything they ask: Why? ... Why?.. Will you please explain...
But it seems to me.. the Why? is actually hitting on the head...

What do  you think?

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Reply from football
Nov.11.2012
06:41PM EDT 
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vertical line Do you have much enlightened friends?
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.11.2012
06:52PM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "Do you have much enlightened friends?"
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Yep just a few.. including my Teacher of course..
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Reply from Sam Hardy
Nov.12.2012
07:04AM EDT 
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vertical line They're called signs not symptoms, Leo.  Symptoms are what you have when you are ill.

There are signs of the Buddha, not symptoms.

Are you trying to say enlightened beings are ill?  It could be argued that unenlightened ones are!

I'll have to stop here as this post is almost getting as long as yours and I know what you say about people who write long posts lol


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Reply from Sam Hardy
Nov.12.2012
07:06AM EDT 
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vertical line By the way, are people who start lots of new topics unenlightened as well ? lol

If so, why ? lol
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.12.2012
07:08AM EDT 
vertical line Because he's too many characters.
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.12.2012
11:45AM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "They're called signs not symptoms, Leo.  Symptoms are what you have when you are ill.

There are signs of the Buddha, not symptoms.

Are you trying to say enlightened beings are ill?  It could be argued that unenlightened ones are!

I'll have to stop here as this post is almost getting as long as yours and I know what you say about people who write long posts lol


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Ah I think you are right.. but it seems that is how my mind works when I think...lol
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.12.2012
11:47AM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "By the way, are people who start lots of new topics unenlightened as well ? lol

If so, why ? lol
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What do you think?... hahaha.. I think I have beaten Shayne...lol
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Reply from boymonk
Nov.13.2012
02:59AM EDT 
vertical line "ymptoms of Enlightened?"

Ymptoms munchies of course.
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