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vertical line Posted on Nov.15.2012 @ 07:53PM EDT by jaigon
I find myself to be the overly intellectual type, one who is addicted to contemplating.  I often catch myself in the midst of mental chatter, and end up getting caught up in my own thinking.  Since taking a regular practice of yoga and meditation my mind has been a little more clear and quiet.  I find though, that eventually the tranquillity fades and the waters ripple.  Are there any methods to stilling the mind that one can do throughout the day without having to sit in zazen for 20min or longer at a time?
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Reply from nibble
Nov.15.2012
08:01PM EDT 
vertical line No, there is no way to get a hold of what youre mind is thinking so you`ll probasbly die a terrible death of brain hemorrhage.
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Reply from QuantumZen
Nov.16.2012
12:03AM EDT 
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vertical line Well zazen does help (at least for me). Yet utilizing zazen is kind of missing the point completely. :) I think your "self chatter problem" can be approached from many different sides. First of all, you could try and solve the puzzles you are solving in your mind xD easy
Secondly you could try to know yourself better, thus understanding the way you<--- think.
Lastly you could do all of the above by sitting zazen and understanding that there is no you, no chatter, no problems and stopping or starting whenever you want it to stop or start (after all you are it :)

Alan Watts once said "One who always thinks end up thinking about nothing except thoughts"
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Reply from so_teh
Nov.16.2012
12:20AM EDT 
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vertical line A lot of my thoughts are on love, this can only last a few minutes and is inexpressible. I must flower into meditation immediately, thereof.
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.16.2012
01:23AM EDT 
vertical line I think the only way is sitting in zazen 3 time 30 minutes a day.
Join retreats 3 days 5 days or 7 days at least 3 times a year.

Do this for 30 years to get results.. and  you must do koan studies too...
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.16.2012
01:24AM EDT 
vertical line That is if you want results. If not just forget about it..
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.16.2012
02:01AM EDT 
vertical line `But find an Authentic Teacher first. A Teacher that is truly enlightened. That is the most important. This is the key to Zen. Otherwise you may need to spend a 1001 lifetimes to get results..
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.16.2012
07:57AM EDT 
vertical line Method 0: contemplate leoj99 but don't pay him any mind.
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Reply from Sam Hardy
Nov.16.2012
08:01AM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "That is if you want results. If not just forget about it.. "
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What happened to fast track Leo?
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Reply from football
Nov.16.2012
08:03AM EDT 
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Quote: "I think the only way is sitting in zazen 3 time 30 minutes a day.
Join retreats 3 days 5 days or 7 days at least 3 times a year.

Do this for 30 years to get results.. and  you must do koan studies too...
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no not 30 years.One or two years is enough to get the fist results.At maximum two years you can get the level of Budha Nature.That's the half of the way.That tou get the joy and happiness which lead/encourage you through the rest of your life..

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Reply from leoj99
Nov.16.2012
11:26AM EDT 
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Quote: "I think the only way is sitting in zazen 3 time 30 minutes a day.
Join retreats 3 days 5 days or 7 days at least 3 times a year.

Do this for 30 years to get results.. and  you must do koan studies too...
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no not 30 years.One or two years is enough to get the fist results.At maximum two years you can get the level of Budha Nature.That's the half of the way.That tou get the joy and happiness which lead/encourage you through the rest of your life..

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I think that is one of the things that is only in the West thing...lol
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Reply from football
Nov.16.2012
01:02PM EDT 
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vertical line Hhmm....and you are from the East?
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.16.2012
01:11PM EDT 
vertical line Half & half.
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Reply from jaigon
Nov.16.2012
10:17PM EDT 
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vertical line Koan studies- where and how do I start?

I'm am not entirely new to eastern thought/philosophy/religion, but definatly not experienced.  I have been doing Yoga for about a year now.  And by yoga I don't just mean stretching, I have a fairly regular pranayama practice and have spent some time trying Kundalini on my own (Kundalini is very hard without any teacher!).  Though, I am quite new to Zen, and the passitivity and directness of it.  I find yoga to be a little dogmatic at times and zen is something that seems much more practical.

I have no enlightened (or Kensho) Zen teacher near by.  Once I'm done University I would like to travel Asia and find some sort of guru and devote a lifestyle around his/her teaching.

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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.17.2012
10:36AM EDT 
vertical line That was a great movie.
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Reply from football
Nov.17.2012
10:14PM EDT 
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vertical line :)
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Reply from so_teh
Nov.17.2012
10:32PM EDT 
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vertical line 1) I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination
2) Use your imagination: Think from the end
3) Imagination is more important than knowledge
4) Imagination - Repetition - Confession - Remembrance - Concentration
5) One of the nice things about our problems is a good many of them don't exist except in our imaginations

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