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TOPIC: A MIND THAT CAN STOP THINKING IS INTUITIVE |
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Posted on Nov.21.2012 @ 12:30AM EDT by leoj99
A Mind That Can Stop Thinking is Intuitive.
Intuition is knowing without thinking. Only an intuitive mind can experience Buddha Nature.
Thats exactly the purpose of Zazen to silence the thinking mind so that your intuition can wake up.
I rarely heard Intuition in Zen Forums. I think they even confused intuition as the same as thinking.
What do you think.
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Reply from jaigon
Nov.21.2012
01:18AM EDT
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Osho covered this topic in one of his books. Basically, he said that the mind is not the same as your intellegence. Mind is intellect, and intellegence is much more. The brain is the aspect that grinds on and on, making unnessary thoughts. When solving a problem intuitivly you just simply follow a process based on basic principles and don't need to ponder. As soon as you are unsure, or doubtful, you stop and ponder. |
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.21.2012
01:33AM EDT
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Quote: "Osho covered this topic in one of his books. Basically, he said that the mind is not the same as your intellegence. Mind is intellect, and intellegence is much more. The brain is the aspect that grinds on and on, making unnessary thoughts. When solving a problem intuitivly you just simply follow a process based on basic principles and don't need to ponder. As soon as you are unsure, or doubtful, you stop and ponder.
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This is the whole point. Zen is all about norturing your intuitive capacities. It is the most powerful faculty of man. Man needs the thinking mind to solve technical problems but when it comes spiritual matters it is the intuition that solves it.
This is a very subtle distinction that most have overlooked.
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.21.2012
01:42AM EDT
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Did you notice that solving koans are very difficult and impossible? This is because koans are exactly designed to render the thinking mind helpless. When the thinking mind gives up on all its modes of attacks then it stops then the intuitive capacity wakes up.
Try solving koans and your modes of attack are you ponder and ponder and grind and grind on it. You are caught with the phrase and you are stucked.
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.21.2012
02:08AM EDT
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So how can you think of Muuuu....lol |
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Reply from starduster
Nov.21.2012
03:40AM EDT
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Trying to figure things out logically is necessarily dualistic. There must be at least two things present in logic in order for one thing to follow another.
Trying to figure things out intuitively is necessarily singular because everything is considered at once, as one, without logic, discarding logic, and just *feeling it out*.
Logic is thinking. Intuition is feeling.
I believe that the only thing necessary to intuition is stopping the internal dialogue.
But that is often found hard to do. In that case remember that you had to learn to talk. The natural state of a babys mind is one of internal silence, and a barrage of external stimuli, enough to make it cry.
So get back to the babys mind. You dont have to stop the dialogue. Silence is natural. Just stop making the internal dialogue, a little bit at a time, ending the habit, and it will go away. If you can do it for a second, you can do it for a minute. If for a minute, then for an hour. If for an hour, then indefinitely. |
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.21.2012
05:20AM EDT
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Singin' The Blues |
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Reply from leoj99
Nov.21.2012
09:34AM EDT
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Quote: "
Trying to figure things out logically is necessarily dualistic. There must be at least two things present in logic in order for one thing to follow another.
Trying to figure things out intuitively is necessarily singular because everything is considered at once, as one, without logic, discarding logic, and just *feeling it out*.
Logic is thinking. Intuition is feeling.
I believe that the only thing necessary to intuition is stopping the internal dialogue.
But that is often found hard to do. In that case remember that you had to learn to talk. The natural state of a babys mind is one of internal silence, and a barrage of external stimuli, enough to make it cry.
So get back to the babys mind. You dont have to stop the dialogue. Silence is natural. Just stop making the internal dialogue, a little bit at a time, ending the habit, and it will go away. If you can do it for a second, you can do it for a minute. If for a minute, then for an hour. If for an hour, then indefinitely. " .........
That is really very nice isn't it?
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Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.21.2012
09:35AM EDT
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Only if you're thinking about it. |
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Reply from Avisitor
Nov.21.2012
12:38PM EDT
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Find out where the intuition is coming from .... |
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Reply from Woodsman
Nov.21.2012
01:52PM EDT
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scratch scratch scratch |
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Reply from nibble
Nov.21.2012
02:20PM EDT
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Quote: "Find out where the intuition is coming from ....
" ......... Hmmm, its not from you, maybe over... Wait, look behind you!
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Reply from Avisitor
Nov.21.2012
03:30PM EDT
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Quote: "Quote: "Find out where the intuition is coming from ....
" ......... Hmmm, its not from you, maybe over... Wait, look behind you! " .........
No, no, not behind ... within ... hahaha
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