 |
| →→→→ |
 |
TOPIC: ZEN MASTERS |
|
|
|
Posted on Nov.24.2012 @ 12:02PM EDT by leoj99
Maybe we can discuss what are Zen Masters.
If a Zen Masters errs in some moral conduct he is no longer a Zen Master?
|
|
↓Go to Latest Reply
|
→Reply to this Topic
|
|
| |
|
|
Reply from Woodsman
Nov.24.2012
04:45PM EDT
|
|
Not to the one he erred against. |
|
|
|
→Quote & Reply
→Post Reply
147822
|
|
| |
|
|
Reply from leoj99
Nov.24.2012
04:50PM EDT
|
|
Quote: "Not to the one he erred against.
"
.........
He erred to the spectators...?
|
|
|
|
→Quote & Reply
→Post Reply
147823
|
|
| |
|
|
Reply from Woodsman
Nov.24.2012
05:48PM EDT
|
|
It depends on the nature of the error. To some it would not mean nothing, to others it would mean everything which elevates or diminishes status. |
|
|
|
→Quote & Reply
→Post Reply
147824
|
|
| |
|
|
Reply from Avisitor
Nov.24.2012
05:53PM EDT
→Email Avisitor
|
|
Quote: "It depends on the nature of the error. To some it would not mean nothing, to others it would mean everything which elevates or diminishes status.
"
.........
Yes, it depends on who is looking in ....
If those who can not see beyond their nose watch the err then they will jump upon such things
If those who can see then they will understand.
Be of good cheer ... Santa Claus is almost here ... hahaha
|
|
|
|
→Quote & Reply
→Post Reply
147825
|
|
| |
|
|
Reply from Woodsman
Nov.24.2012
07:28PM EDT
|
|
Santa Sanat Satan? |
|
|
|
→Quote & Reply
→Post Reply
147829
|
|
| |
|
|
Reply from IZIZIZ
Nov.25.2012
04:54AM EDT
|
|
How about reality ?
Does it have the same rules to abide by as zen masters?
What are the rules for zen masters?
What is the difference between a zen master and reality?
Is it immoral to be a zen master whom is not reality?
What does reality expect from reality?
|
|
|
|
→Quote & Reply
→Post Reply
147838
|
|
| |
|
|
Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.25.2012
07:31AM EDT
|
|
What did you do? |
|
|
|
→Quote & Reply
→Post Reply
147844
|
|
| |
|
|
Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.25.2012
07:37AM EDT
|
|
How about you get a life. God forbid. |
|
|
|
→Quote & Reply
→Post Reply
147846
|
|
| |
|
|
Reply from leoj99
Nov.25.2012
11:35AM EDT
|
|
Quote: "It depends on the nature of the error. To some it would not mean nothing, to others it would mean everything which elevates or diminishes status.
"
.........
Well for example the sex scandals that some Zen Teachers are accused with. I am not sure if they are Zen Masters though.
|
|
|
|
→Quote & Reply
→Post Reply
147855
|
|
| |
|
|
Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.25.2012
11:36AM EDT
|
|
Thanks for that. |
|
|
|
→Quote & Reply
→Post Reply
147857
|
|
| |
|
|
Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.25.2012
11:37AM EDT
|
|
Sorry. Thanks for that, Zen Master. |
|
|
|
→Quote & Reply
→Post Reply
147858
|
|
| |
|
|
Reply from jaigon
Nov.25.2012
07:32PM EDT
→Email jaigon
|
|
I think you must realize that a master of zen is a master of zen.... he is not a master of everything. Just like a master of the flute is not a master in the kitchen so a master of zen is not a master of ascetics. |
|
|
|
→Quote & Reply
→Post Reply
147874
|
|
| |
|
|
Reply from justin
Nov.26.2012
11:03AM EDT
→Email justin
|
|
Quote: "Quote: "It depends on the nature of the error. To some it would not mean nothing, to others it would mean everything which elevates or diminishes status.
"
.........
Well for example the sex scandals that some Zen Teachers are accused with. I am not sure if they are Zen Masters though.
"
.........
I would have to agree with you, it is behavior which is easy to see leads you into suffering. If a person does not know how to minimise or restrict the illusion (cut it of at the root) then how can they be a master?
and in-proper sex is the easiest of all illusions to see. and the quickest to experience. (the karma of action) just sleep with the neighbors wife and set the timer on your watch, for a practical example.
|
|
|
|
→Quote & Reply
→Post Reply
147900
|
|
| |
|
|
Reply from starduster
Nov.27.2012
10:39AM EDT
|
|
Quote: "
How about reality ?
Does it have the same rules to abide by as zen masters?
What are the rules for zen masters?
What is the difference between a zen master and reality?
Is it immoral to be a zen master whom is not reality?
What does reality expect from reality?
"
......... "
.........
Monastic rules only apply in a monastery.
That is in order to keep the place operating in a was that facilitates what people are there for.
Same reason ushers come around and ask people to be quiet in the movie theatre. People traveled to get there, and paid money to get in, to see the movie, not to listen to some idiot making wise cracks. |
|
|
|
→Quote & Reply
→Post Reply
147925
|
|
| |
|
|
Reply from Sam Hardy
Nov.27.2012
11:57AM EDT
→Email Sam Hardy
|
|
Quote: "
How about reality ?
Does it have the same rules to abide by as zen masters?
What are the rules for zen masters?
What is the difference between a zen master and reality?
Is it immoral to be a zen master whom is not reality?
What does reality expect from reality?
"
.........
Is there any difference between Zen talk and complete nonsense?
Reality doesn't have any rules to abide by. It can do anything it wants. And often does. Not that it wants to do anything.
The difference between a Zen master and reality is that the first is a person and the second is everything that is. In other words, very little difference really.
Reality expects reality to be real. But it is often disappointed that it is now almost devoid of expectation.
|
|
|
|
→Quote & Reply
→Post Reply
147930
|
|
| |
|
|
Reply from Joe Chip
Nov.27.2012
12:41PM EDT
|
|
Reality: 1=0. |
|
|
|
→Quote & Reply
→Post Reply
147934
|
|
| |
|
|
Reply from Sam Hardy
Nov.27.2012
02:05PM EDT
→Email Sam Hardy
|
|
Quote: "Reality: 1=0."
.........
Not that anyone's keeping score :)
|
|
|
|
→Quote & Reply
→Post Reply
147937
|
|
| |
|
|
Reply from BlankName
Nov.27.2012
03:01PM EDT
→Email BlankName
|
|
I don't do points. |
|
|
|
→Quote & Reply
→Post Reply
147943
|
|
| |
|
|
Reply from leoj99
Nov.28.2012
01:01AM EDT
|
|
Quote: "Quote: "
How about reality ?
Does it have the same rules to abide by as zen masters?
What are the rules for zen masters?
What is the difference between a zen master and reality?
Is it immoral to be a zen master whom is not reality?
What does reality expect from reality?
"
.........
Is there any difference between Zen talk and complete nonsense?
Reality doesn't have any rules to abide by. It can do anything it wants. And often does. Not that it wants to do anything.
The difference between a Zen master and reality is that the first is a person and the second is everything that is. In other words, very little difference really.
Reality expects reality to be real. But it is often disappointed that it is now almost devoid of expectation.
"
.........
So Zen Masters can have sex too as some ordinary beings.
How come they say they are sex scandals..
|
|
|
|
→Quote & Reply
→Post Reply
147954
|
|
| |
| ←Back To Topic List |
|
↑Go to Top of Page |
MONASTERE DE KARSKA