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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: WHY SO MUCH SUFFERING IN THE WORLD?
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Why So Much Suffering in the World?
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Reply from leoj99
Dec.12.2012
02:42AM EDT 
vertical line Most people are suffering their freedom. They are free to choose their suffering.
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Reply from zbishak
Dec.12.2012
05:13AM EDT 
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hello leoj99

what cause your suffering do you think?
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Reply from Avisitor
Dec.12.2012
10:29AM EDT 
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hello leoj99

what cause your suffering do you think?

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Too much thinking ...
Maybe he needs to sit down and just eat watermelons .... hahaha
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Reply from BlankName
Dec.12.2012
04:44PM EDT 
→Email BlankName 		vertical line Unconcerned with why one gives.
Unconcerned with that without.
Unconcerned with results.
Unconcerned with name and form.
Unconcerned with real or apparent.
Unconcerned with what is Almighty.
Unconcerned with words or letters.
Unconcerned with time and circumstance.
Unconcerned with what is Truth.
Unconcerned with love or emptiness.
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Reply from leoj99
Dec.12.2012
11:07PM EDT 
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hello leoj99

what cause your suffering do you think?

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 Yes the cause of suffering is mental diarrhea..
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Dec.12.2012
11:27PM EDT 
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hello leoj99

what cause your suffering do you think?

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 Yes the cause of suffering is mental diarrhea..

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I think even those who claim they always sit in zazen does not know that the purpose of zazen is to stop your monkey mind. Monkey mind is the mind that is jumping from thoughts to thoughts endlessly.

I think they don't even get the clue that zazen is just breath in and breath out and facing that wall. If you catch yourself thinking in zazen just go back to the breath, back to breath counting. That means stop the thoughts thats why you go to just breath awareness.
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Reply from zbishak
Dec.13.2012
07:09AM EDT 
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when enough is not enough

one suffers

to eat when hungry, sleep when tired is enough.

all else is a bonus not to grieve over but be content there is so much.
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Reply from Joe Chip
Dec.13.2012
07:24AM EDT 
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Because your guru is more enlightened than his guru.
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Dec.13.2012
10:37AM EDT 
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hello leoj99

what cause your suffering do you think?

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 Yes the cause of suffering is mental diarrhea..

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I think even those who claim they always sit in zazen does not know that the purpose of zazen is to stop your monkey mind. Monkey mind is the mind that is jumping from thoughts to thoughts endlessly.

I think they don't even get the clue that zazen is just breath in and breath out and facing that wall. If you catch yourself thinking in zazen just go back to the breath, back to breath counting. That means stop the thoughts thats why you go to just breath awareness.


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That's half right.
Sitting in Zazen is to sit in the perfection that is Buddha.
You don't try to stop your thoughts
You honor them as they arise and let them go as they fall away
You become awareness. You aren't stopping thoughts
The act of sitting with your awareness on breathe gives you the proper conditions
for the moment when thought stops naturally and emptiness abounds ... all things then become possible.
Look deeper and find your true self.
Don't get caught in traps .... hahaha
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Reply from leoj99
Dec.13.2012
11:40AM EDT 
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hello leoj99

what cause your suffering do you think?

"
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 Yes the cause of suffering is mental diarrhea..

"
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I think even those who claim they always sit in zazen does not know that the purpose of zazen is to stop your monkey mind. Monkey mind is the mind that is jumping from thoughts to thoughts endlessly.

I think they don't even get the clue that zazen is just breath in and breath out and facing that wall. If you catch yourself thinking in zazen just go back to the breath, back to breath counting. That means stop the thoughts thats why you go to just breath awareness.


"
.........

That's half right.
Sitting in Zazen is to sit in the perfection that is Buddha.
You don't try to stop your thoughts
You honor them as they arise and let them go as they fall away
You become awareness. You aren't stopping thoughts
The act of sitting with your awareness on breathe gives you the proper conditions
for the moment when thought stops naturally and emptiness abounds ... all things then become possible.
Look deeper and find your true self.
Don't get caught in traps .... hahaha
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So how about sitting on the toilet. Isn't it also sitting like the Buddha?...lol... and it is even more relaxing...
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Dec.13.2012
11:52AM EDT 
→Email Avisitor 		vertical line Quote: "So how about sitting on the toilet. Isn't it also sitting like the Buddha?...lol... and it is even more relaxing...
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So how is your attitude going to get you to Nirvana??
What you sow .. so shall you reap ... haha
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Reply from Joe Chip
Dec.13.2012
12:04PM EDT 
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Dec.13.2012
08:09PM EDT 
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Whatever you prefer Joe ...it is your fantasy world
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Dec.13.2012
08:20PM EDT 
→Email BlankName 		vertical line Quote: "Unconcerned with why one gives.
Unconcerned with that without.
Unconcerned with results.
Unconcerned with name and form.
Unconcerned with real or apparent.
Unconcerned with what is Almighty.
Unconcerned with words or letters.
Unconcerned with time and circumstance.
Unconcerned with what is Truth.
Unconcerned with love or emptiness."
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Something about peace. The extreme of peace. Not the best for your suffering, either.
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Dec.13.2012
11:15PM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "Quote: "So how about sitting on the toilet. Isn't it also sitting like the Buddha?...lol... and it is even more relaxing...
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So how is your attitude going to get you to Nirvana??
What you sow .. so shall you reap ... haha
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You mean if you relieve yourself in the toilet it is not Nirvana?
If not so what is Nirvana...lol
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Reply from leoj99
Dec.13.2012
11:16PM EDT 
vertical line How can there be Nirvana if you cannot relieve yourself..
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Reply from Joe Chip
Dec.14.2012
06:01AM EDT 
vertical line Don't worry, it's a mental straitjacket - he only fantasises about putting bumps on your head.
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Reply from leoj99
Dec.14.2012
11:14AM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "Don't worry, it's a mental straitjacket - he only fantasises about putting bumps on your head. "
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Who said I am worried...lol
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Reply from Joe Chip
Dec.14.2012
01:39PM EDT 
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