And lets say u had to choose marriage based on two photos (And you had to choose or else the world would blow up or a baby seal killed or something silly):

One is of what a dualistic person would call a flat nosed chubby train wreck etc., while the other was what a dualistic person would call insanely sweet beauty with kind eyes and pretty smile.

Before you choose youre informed that the chubby girl with the pistering evil eyes was the one with least income (living on the street) thus more in dire need of a marriage as the sweet one had higher income level than even you.

Now, who would you choose? The grumpy lady with the desperate need of love and money or?..

Why? And how much time would you need to take this lifechanging choice?

(not an attack (yet:) just curiouse of youre answer:)

Quote: "Quote: "To me Buddhism is a PROCESS to learn , discover , experience , know OWNSELF by being awake , by own realiazation leading to acceptance of ownself and emptiness ......so curiosity is just a tiny part in the process ..............
Thks
CSEe"
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"Learn, discover, experience, and know oneself by being awake" depend upon curiosity. It's neither tiny nor big. It's just Curiosity.
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If comparing the whole process .......curiosity is tiny . Perhaps can be the factor but never the cause .........

Thks

CSEe,

To me Sir , nothing is referral to Buddhism , nothing is important than other in Buddhism so "comparing" is never exist in Buddhism .... my meaning of " comparing" in the above is just to explain that if we look at the whole process to aware , to learn , to accept and freedom from ownselves ...curiosity is just a tiny part of it .

Curiosity can be a factor , can also sparked by desire , ego , pride , greed , will , determination , knowledge etc so curiosity does NOT stand alone but is always comingled with other emotions ....so all these so call "emotions" is known as "self" to me .....and by human culture this "self" is "CSEe" .....Buddhism is a PROCESS to free "CSEe" from me- the emptiness .

Thks

CSEe

What am I ? To me currently- I am emptiness .............by "myself" is all my desire / emotions , love , compassion , greed , ego that causes my existence - the polluted energy .Buddhism is a PROCESS that will free me , by my own realization from myself .

"MYSELF" .......the awaken self , the same self that full of desire , the same self that crying in funeral , enjoying sex.......the same one that learned Buddhism .

Buddhism is a PROCESS that will bring out the awaken self and acceptance on this self leading to freedom of this self ......be in emptiness . Is always myself that think , that regrets , that cut own hand on own will ...never others ................

Thks

CSEe
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What makes you believe I never pay attention to others ? As I had said before , to me Buddhism is learning to accept 'ownself" and free of it NOT creating more self ........so all actions / re-action / nature by others or ownself is a great source for learning .......that is why I am here my friend , to debate with others for my own learning progress ........I always answer all question put to me ,and always consider all suggestion for me and always give a due consideration ....dear friend , if I follow your path this does not means I against it or disagree with you ...simply thats your path ...and I have option to my path .

To me there is no right path or wrong path , good act or bad act in Buddhism as all action / path is a source of learning ........

In most if not all Buddhism website , too many people want me to follow their path / their beliefs and always declined to debate with me ...........I hope you could understand that I am always ready to change provided it fit in my awareness / my senses but if not I still consider it perhaps in the future.

why cant we debate and be friend for doing that .

Thks

CSEe 

Dear sir , pls dont be mis-understand me , I am not trying to be confrontational or against you ......just that in my current opinion Buddhism is all about SAME and EQUAL therefore EVEN BEFORE I " pay intention to others " I should understand that I am SAME and EQUAL to all being whether living or non-living ....and all being even the dust under my shoe is teacher to me SAME and EQUAL as Dalai Lama .....only with that level of acceptance I could free from ego / pride to learn purity from all .......so sir , I realize I am no different to others BEFORE I pay attention to them NOT after .....................

I of current view that as long as there is a "mind" I will never free from self because mind is the reflection of self .....Buddhism to me is experiencing , discovering all emotions , desire in action , re-action or intention .............

Thks

CSEe

Hi esoteric , you said " Sorry, I meant no distinction, not "no difference.". Same as SAME, not same as equal. Anyway, I made the suggestion. It is up to you whether or not to practice it. :-)

In my current understanding Equal means nothing is more or less ...for example you are human , I am human thats make us SAME as human ....but if we focus on our knowledge , entertaining our ego , we will accept the differences ...thats will lead to distiction or differences NOT EQUAL . In my current understanding of Buddhism , all being are SAME and EQUAL ........no one or anything more or less than others . Siddharta is SAME and EQUAL as the dust on your table , Dalai Lama is SAMe and EQUAL as Osama ...I am SAME and EQUAL as the rubbish outside your house .

Only with that level of awareness / acceptance , one could see himself and towards freedom of self .

Thks

CSEe

Quote: "Like looking at the green grass. One person says, "That's grass!" The other person says, "No, that's green!"

But grass and green are not two different things there. You know?
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"The grass or the green " is being never related to both person and is both person learning lesson to discover ........both answer is NEVER right or WRONG . Buddhism is a PROCESS that both person will understand / discover their desire / emotion for " the grass or the green".....................

Is all up to you my friend , is your learning process , To me if we base on knowledge and defended it , we will always be the one we already know and be the one we wish to know ...............Buddhism is beyond knowledge ............

Thks

CSEe

Because I want to learn..........you see my friend , in all activities in our daily life is part of Buddhism , all is great source to learn discover "OWNSELF" so whether seeing a bird on the tree , looking at a pen on the table , understanding the life of a virus , gossiping on Beyonce love life , knowing Osama action , listening to Dalai Lama talks is all a great source to discover ownself . Basicly all is great source for uncover ownself .................to me I really likes debate , because when we debate I could explore all areas of my awareness , challenging all my ego , my pride , my knowledge , my understanding , my desire / emotions , love , hate , anger etc ...so when we debate I will explore all my senses to explore myself and this will makes me more understand on my desire / emotions .and perhaps even factor that could change me .

So even if I could not agree with you NOW but this will always a part of my lesson perhaps I could agree with you after I progress into greater realization .

When we debate , I never had any emotion to defend my view or influence you but sincerely I just want to understand your emotions .....by understanding your emotions , your acceptance on the knowledge , your understanding on your journey , I will see myself . You will be a mirror for me to experience "myself" , my anger / my pride , my love ...and this will make me progress into greater understanding on myself .

When we debate ...I will always learn from you whether from your question , your understanding or my own explaination to you because debate could pushes me beyond my "normal awareness" into better understanding on ownself .

So sir , if can I really hope to debate with as many people as I could .

Thks

CSEe