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  Ching Ch'ing, a Chinese Ch'an master, asked a monk:
-What is the sound outside?
The monk answered:
-That is the sound of rain.
The master said:
-Sentient beings are upside down, they lose themselves in pursuit of things.
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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: IF THE CREATOR HAS DONE A GOOD JOB ON US.
vertical line Posted on Feb.25.2013 @ 03:16AM EDT by leoj99
If the Creator has Done a Good Job on Us

Why So Much Suffering in the World?

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Reply from Avisitor
Feb.25.2013
03:20AM EDT 
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vertical line If you talk about the creator then you are not talking about Zen.
It is also not Buddhism.

Suffering is what drives people to seek the freedom that enlightenment provides.
It is all part of the perfect plan ... hahaha
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Reply from leoj99
Feb.25.2013
03:25AM EDT 
vertical line What plan. Who plan it.. the creator?..lol
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Reply from Sam Hardy
Feb.25.2013
05:49AM EDT 
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Reply from *CSEe*
Feb.25.2013
05:54AM EDT 
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In my current understanding , all beings exist because of the polluted energy that cause it to exist and in human that polluted energy is all the emotions , desire , compassion , will , determination , love that I known it as "self" ...so I will continue to exist as long as I still have this self ....so the creator of my existance is myself as my existance is cause by my will to exist ...........Buddhism is a process that I will release this polluted energy ( myself) back into nothingness ...........so during this processs , I will experience all my self and joy or suffering is part of myself , cause by myself.........

Buddhism is a natural process that will lead me to accept myself and decrease myself ...as myself decreases , my burden of self decreases.....I will be in a condition of less self ....and can be mistaken as being happy or compassionate .

So ' the creator" of me is not perfect as that is the myself-the polluted energy in me-the emptiness . Buddhism is to cease own existance naturally .........I wish to debate this for my own learning process.

Thks

CSEe

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Reply from Avisitor
Feb.25.2013
06:59AM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "What plan. Who plan it.. the creator?..lol "
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If there is a car accident ... who planned it??
If you should meet someone you know in a far off place ... who planned it??
There is life on this planet ... who planned it??

Keep asking questions .... hahahaha
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Reply from *CSEe*
Feb.25.2013
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Quote: "Quote: "What plan. Who plan it.. the creator?..lol "
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If there is a car accident ... who planned it??
If you should meet someone you know in a far off place ... who planned it??
There is life on this planet ... who planned it??

Keep asking questions .... hahahaha
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Just sharing . To me , Any incident happens , must happen because someone or something is progressing in their own process known to me as Buddhism .......

If in a car accident , perhaps someone in their own process to discover their anger , their emotion , their ego etc .........or something by nature is changing form as part of their own process leading to emptiness .............

All beings exist because they need to be exist as part of their will , their emotion or their nature to exist ...they will continue to exist as long as they still in nature to exist ......but all is still part of a process known to me as Buddhism .

As human , we all could plan , could decide , could avoid , could have option ...but still whatever we plan , plan to be happens still such hapening is still resulted by ownselves...and ourselves still in a process call Buddhism .

Therefore to me currently , whether is plan to happens or without plan that happens is still in a process known to me as Buddhism.....

As Buddhism is the natural process ............

Thks
CSEe  

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Reply from football
Feb.25.2013
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Who planed Buddhism?

Buddha planed.

any other question?

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Feb.25.2013
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Who planed Buddhism?

Buddha planed.

any other question?

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To me , Buddha is emptiness . Siddharta is just introducer of the concept of Buddhism to human ......Buddhism is natural process that will lead to original condition before polluted- into emptiness  ...how it get polluted ? I do not know how .........ask Hawkling .

Thks

CSEe

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Reply from zenmanstan
Feb.25.2013
02:22PM EDT 
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vertical line suffering is a catalyst to do good and live your life.

The good horse needs no telling, he runs freely
The mediocre horse needs some spurring to run
the bad horse needs a whip to run
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Reply from nibble
Feb.25.2013
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vertical line Dang, hope you don`t own any:)
Horse wearing halter
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LOnG
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Reply from jordtm
Feb.26.2013
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