"But," asked Vaccha persistently, "when one who has this emancipation of mind (freed from self) dies, where does he go, where is he reborn?
The Buddha replied:
"The word 'reborn' does not fit the case."
"Then he is not reborn?"
"Fundamentally, our experience as experienced is not different from the Zen master's. Where we differ is that we place a fog, a particular kind of conceptual overlay onto that experience and then make an emotional investment in that overlay, taking it to be "real" in and of itself."
Quote: "But isn't that what you advocate? How can there be any fuller secession of thinking than death?
No, that isn't what I advocate. The practice is awareness. Sit in calm focus and full awareness. Breathe in and breathe out. When one becomes aware one is not on breathe then return back to breathe. Nothing is forced. Thoughts are let in and let go. There comes a moment when awareness is free of thoughts and emotions. Awareness can then fully reflect what is there. See for yourself. See yourself. .... hahahaha
I believe that Chan or Zen was first started by Bodhidharma. Hui K'o was the second leader of the teachings.
Buddhism was being twisted and turned around by its leaders who did not have the awakening experience of Satori. So, Bodhidharma came to set things back on track. Hui K'o continued this line of teachings and understanding of Buddhism.