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  At Savatthi. Then the Venerable Suradha approached the Buddha...and said to him:

"Venerable sir, how should one know, how should one see so that, in regard to this body
with consciousness and in regard to all external signs, the... continue...

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vertical line Posted on Mar.31.2013 @ 09:54PM EDT by leoj99
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Student: Is it good to study the Sutras? As a master of the Lankavatara School, would you tell me if it is beneficial?

Hui-k'o: Not if one is addicted to a literary understanding of Sutras. Unfortunately, today, many students have failed to come to a real understanding of their predecessor's words. They cling to the letter and forget the insight. In my own transmission from Master Bodhidharma, the Lankavatara Sutra is meant as an aid for transcending words and the mental pictures they create. In that way, Sutras are not an obstruction.

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Mar.31.2013
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Student: I must confess, I get confused reading scriptures. There is so much to learn and so many important words which I don't understand.

Hui-k'o: How true! This reminds me of my youthful days as a student when Bodhidharma set me straight. After I saw the inconceivable aspect of my true Mind for the first time, I realized how dangerous clinging to words can be if one does not have a concrete realization.

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Mar.31.2013
09:58PM EDT 
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Student: That is interesting. I am not at your level. For me, studying the meaning of words is like counting the sands at the bottom of the ocean. There are so many difficult ideas to learn-I shall never understand them all. I feel like I am drowning in letters!

Hui-k'o: This is because, as yet, you don't comprehend the single principle which unifies the diverse aspects of the teaching and makes it coherent. I know it is very difficult to do this. It was difficult for me. I had to remind myself what the Lankavatara Sutra said: "Don't become attached to the letter and the conventional view of reality."

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Mar.31.2013
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Student: What should I do first, other than studying scripture, becoming like a parrot?

Hui-k'o: First, it is important to realize our true essence-lineage, called the gotra. This is a big accomplishment in itself!

Student: What exactly is the gotra?

Hui-k'o: It is like a precious jewel lying in the mind that is entirely covered by the dirt of habitual mental-picturing and corporeal sensations. After I had my initial glimpse into the gotra, it was easy for me to set aside those states which didn't fit with its pristine nature. If you are fortunate, one day you will catch a glimpse of it also.

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Mar.31.2013
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Student: Are there any techniques for doing this?

Hui-k'o: When one is in harmony with the Buddha's teaching, that is the best technique. But when studying the teachings, it is also important to distinguish between mental concepts, true principles, and direct contemplation. Many today are stuck in the family of scripture interpretation-they have no idea about the family of direct contemplation. They are deeply attached to such concepts as 'quality', 'negation', and 'relation'. Well, this attitude is not very effective for insight into the Buddha's deep principles.

Student: Is it best to not follow the path of words?

Hui-k'o: It is best to use them as a means to realize one's true nature. What is the point of spiritual words if one cannot manifest the spirit within which liberates us from suffering? People who won't go past words are no better than idle poets who recite poems; who can only dream of sublime states.

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