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vertical line Posted on Apr.13.2013 @ 07:55AM EDT by justin
WHY IS THERE STILL DUST?
One day, when the brilliant Chinese Cha'n master Chao-chou was sweeping
the court of the monastery, a man asked him:
-Ch'an monastery supposed to be clean and pure. Why is there dust to sweep?
Chao-chou replied:
-It came trom outside.
On another day, when the same thing happening, a monk asked him:
-Sir, you are a man of good understanding, why do you still have dust?
Chao-chou replied:
-Look! another dust again.


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Apr.13.2013
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vertical line apologise  for my dust, 
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Reply from Avisitor
Apr.13.2013
08:30AM EDT 
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vertical line The simple story relates to a person who sits in meditation
Sit in Zazen is akin to sweeping dust
Ones temple is suppose to be clean
Sweeping is done each day
So, why do you still have dust?
Look again ... another dust .... hahahaha
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Reply from justin
Apr.13.2013
09:23AM EDT 
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vertical line no,

simple story relates to the fact there is no dust unless it is brought.

the dust is the opinions (understandings) which cloud the mirror which does not exist free yourself from all understandings and opinions and see the reality.

and bring no more dust
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Reply from cinchona
Apr.13.2013
10:06AM EDT 
vertical line A YEARS END,
ALL CORNERS OF THIS FLOATING WORLD
SWEPT.

happening every instant too.
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Reply from leoj99
Apr.13.2013
02:33PM EDT 
vertical line Other examples of stupid questions...lol
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Reply from leoj99
Apr.13.2013
02:35PM EDT 
vertical line Didn't you notice that Zen Masters aren't caught with words. They instantly stop you right and there.
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Reply from Avisitor
Apr.13.2013
02:43PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "no,

simple story relates to the fact there is no dust unless it is brought.

the dust is the opinions (understandings) which cloud the mirror which does not exist free yourself from all understandings and opinions and see the reality.

and bring no more dust
"
.........

Whatever makes you happy ....
Seems to me that you brought more dust into your temple .... hahahaha
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Reply from nibble
Apr.13.2013
03:56PM EDT 
vertical line I have mentioned it before, but still find it facinating that "dust" means "yerk" in norvegian:)
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Reply from Avisitor
Apr.13.2013
07:02PM EDT 
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vertical line Often one can see stories which speak in metaphors
Understanding them depends on where you are along your path

Hmm, see the reality??
That is nice and all. But, without any understanding, then the reality is meaningless
Like giving sight to a blind man who has never seen anything
It makes no sense and would bring no joy or happiness

Like many who believe that enlightenment will wipe away the ego
Or that stop thinking will bring wisdom or enlightenment
it is not exactly wrong ... but it isn't right also

Look at the moon. It is beautiful .... hahahahaha
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Reply from nibble
Apr.13.2013
08:08PM EDT 
vertical line Seeping at night. I`ve had dreams that are beautiful, thou the moon is nice.
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Reply from justin
Apr.15.2013
07:56AM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "Quote: "no,

simple story relates to the fact there is no dust unless it is brought.

the dust is the opinions (understandings) which cloud the mirror which does not exist free yourself from all understandings and opinions and see the reality.

and bring no more dust
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Whatever makes you happy ....
Seems to me that you brought more dust into your temple .... hahahaha
"
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not an argument ad hominum, try again
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Apr.15.2013
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vertical line Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "no,

simple story relates to the fact there is no dust unless it is brought.

the dust is the opinions (understandings) which cloud the mirror which does not exist free yourself from all understandings and opinions and see the reality.

and bring no more dust
"
.........

Whatever makes you happy ....
Seems to me that you brought more dust into your temple .... hahahaha
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not an argument ad hominum, try again
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There is no disagreement.  And, I make no ad hominem.
I'm sorry you see things this way.

From where I am, I see you saying the same thing I said.
But, you wish to believe there is only one right answer.
So, I said, "Whatever makes you happy ...."
And since you have an "opinion (understandings) which cloud the mirror which does not exist" that you have brought more dust.

For whatever reason you see an argument..
I am not your adversary. And, I do not debate.
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Reply from justin
Apr.16.2013
10:39PM EDT 
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vertical line i do not know if it is what makes me happy, :)  i see it as just is.

and yes i am riddled with opinions, for sure.

i do not really see it as debating i see as a process of discovery with many angles of awareness.

like everything take me with a grain of salt
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Reply from Avisitor
Apr.17.2013
12:30AM EDT 
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vertical line Often, I find my sense of self is odd at times.
So, I apologize if I come across strange or arrogant.
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