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vertical line Posted on Apr.25.2013 @ 09:17PM EDT by zenmanstan
every path leads to me- God

Today I have tried service to others and it has been a great success. My friend who runs a chat room on Oranum.com said "You bring the best vibes to this chat room, you can do whatever you like including shocking people with messed up things like you always do."

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Reply from Avisitor
Apr.25.2013
10:16PM EDT 
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vertical line every path leads to me- God

Are you God?
Are you the one I talk to when I need your hep so desperately and you deny me??
Like when my sister got cancer, and I asked for your help and you killed my sister anyway??
Are you that God??

Are you the God who let Hitler live and kill all those innocent people because they were Jewish??
Are you the God who took all those Negroes from Africa and enslaved them??
Are you the God who puts so much suffering on all the people of this world??

Every path leads to you?? Why??
Cause you are so good and righteous??
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Reply from leoj99
Apr.25.2013
11:33PM EDT 
vertical line The smart guy is thinking too much again?...lol
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Reply from leoj99
Apr.25.2013
11:53PM EDT 
vertical line What 2 paths?
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Reply from zenmanstan
Apr.26.2013
04:46AM EDT 
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vertical line 2 paths - one of survival - another of serving others unconditional love and realization.

god is powerless to free will.

god isn't all powerful, if someone lives in fear that is their choice
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Reply from cinchona
Apr.26.2013
05:49AM EDT 
vertical line big power and small power.

god is giving the rest is up to you.
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Reply from Avisitor
Apr.26.2013
09:34AM EDT 
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vertical line This is a Zen Buddhist forum.
Please take your God and go to another forum.
There is no "God" in Buddhism.
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Reply from cinchona
Apr.26.2013
09:56AM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "This is a Zen Buddhist forum.
Please take your God and go to another forum.
There is no "God" in Buddhism.


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you seem to have trouble talking on a number of topics.
in ZEN we accept all.
if you are familiar with zen then you would have heard even zen masters, as well as lamas, teachers, of all beliefs often refer to the title GOD if you wish to understand the various interpretations of GOD than put it up as a topic instead of taking oppose to it.
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Reply from Avisitor
Apr.26.2013
10:20AM EDT 
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vertical line God in the sense of Catholics or Jews or Protestants ... do not belong here in a Zen Buddhist forum.
If you wish to talk about God then please move it else where.
If you wish to continue to talk about Zen or Buddhism then please continue.
God have no place in Buddhism.
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Apr.26.2013
10:38AM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "in ZEN we accept all.
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And what makes you able to speak for Zen?? .... hahahaha
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Apr.26.2013
10:45AM EDT 
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vertical line The words of the great sages ... those words are wise
Repeating those words brings no wisdom to come forth from your belly or your head
All paths are not the same ... and where they lead is not always to God ... hahahaha
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Reply from zenmanstan
Apr.26.2013
03:42PM EDT 
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vertical line what happened to freedom of religion. I am a Zen Buddhist who also believes in God as unconditional love.
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Apr.26.2013
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vertical line Quote: "what happened to freedom of religion. I am a Zen Buddhist who also believes in God as unconditional love. "
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You have the freedom to go elsewhere to talk about your religion and to worship your God.
No one denies you ..  your rights.
But, shouldn't you also respect others rights when in another 's forum or temple or church or home or whatever??
Do wish to have this freedom but deny it to others??

In a Zen Buddhist forum, God ... doesn't apply to the conversation or intent of Buddhism.
Many have made comparisons. But, this is just more ... ahem, (clears throat) ... grist for the mill ... hahahaha

In Zen Buddhist forums, we usually talk about work upon ourselves.
To follow and understand the practices laid out by Buddha and his followers.
We don't talk about praising God . Nor do we go about praying to God.
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Reply from zenmanstan
Apr.26.2013
06:14PM EDT 
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vertical line the path of humility is the only way to experience enlightenment. But it is not the only way to Liberation.
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Reply from cinchona
Apr.26.2013
07:29PM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "what happened to freedom of religion. I am a Zen Buddhist who also believes in God as unconditional love.

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Me as well.

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Reply from cinchona
Apr.26.2013
07:44PM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "Quote: "in ZEN we accept all.
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And what makes you able to speak for Zen?? .... hahahaha
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you have.
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Reply from cinchona
Apr.26.2013
07:46PM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "2 paths - one of survival - another of serving others unconditional love and realization.

god is powerless to free will.

god isn't all powerful, if someone lives in fear that is their choice
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similar to the buddhist saying:
you know the path
you know the way
i'll meet you there


we all meet in god
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Reply from cinchona
Apr.26.2013
08:33PM EDT 
vertical line we all meet in zen
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Apr.26.2013
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vertical line Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "in ZEN we accept all.
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And what makes you able to speak for Zen?? .... hahahaha
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you have.
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Arrogance. Well, we certainly know that you have an ego ... hahahha
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Apr.26.2013
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vertical line Quote: "the path of humility is the only way to experience enlightenment. But it is not the only way to Liberation. "
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Did you even think about that first??? ..... hahahaha
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Apr.26.2013
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vertical line Quote: "we all meet in god"
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Here ... God does not apply to the conversation.
It is meaningess ... hahahaha
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Reply from cinchona
Apr.28.2013
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vertical line Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "Quote: "in ZEN we accept all.
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And what makes you able to speak for Zen?? .... hahahaha
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you have.
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Arrogance. Well, we certainly know that you have an ego ... hahahha
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i love you to. And thankyou for your judgement.
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Reply from justin
Apr.28.2013
06:29AM EDT 
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vertical line "Such are the four kinds of people who appear, benefit and pity the world. They thus
become the refuges of the world and give peace and bliss to man and god."


from:

The Mahayana Mahaparinirvana Sutra pg 75.

things are not always black and white :)

(not only is this a buddhist writing but it is specifically mahayana, and Zen.)
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Reply from cinchona
Apr.29.2013
06:45AM EDT 
vertical line peace is gold.
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May.02.2013
06:42PM EDT 
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