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vertical line Posted on Apr.28.2013 @ 05:26AM EDT by cinchona
Eywa, God, Buddha, Krshna, Allah,
Is there any difference between them?
or, are they words used to describe the same thing by different cultures?

please direct your thoughts at the question not at me. I am interested as to what people might think on this topic.
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Reply from football
Apr.28.2013
05:32AM EDT 
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vertical line They are same.
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Reply from leoj99
Apr.28.2013
09:47PM EDT 
vertical line Although you can say they are the same, referring to the same thing, but in actual practice they are not the same.
This is because most people perceive them in so many different ways. And most of the conflict arises from these different perceptions or ideas of God, etc.
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Apr.28.2013
10:13PM EDT 
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vertical line e Eywa, God, Buddha, Krishna, Allah,
Is there any difference between them?
or, are they words used to describe the same thing by different cultures?

Eywa is the guiding force and deity of Pandora and the Na'vi for the movie "Avatar"
God is what some here have said is "unconditional love"
Krishna is the eighth avatar of the Vedic Supreme God Vishnu in Hinduism.
Allah is the Arabic word for God
Buddha was a man who gained supreme enlightenment.

So, God and Allah seem to be the same thing.
The rest has different meanings.

This belief in some thing that is bigger than man seems to be wide spread.
The proof???? They wish for faith.

Buddha was here on earth and taught those who would hear the truth of his words.
Faith was not a part of what he taught.
Don't fool yourselves to believing it is all the same thing.
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Apr.28.2013
10:20PM EDT 
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vertical line Why was there no mention of the Devil??
That is another one of man's beliefs that there is some thing bigger than man.
In those religions, there is God or Allah and there is the Devil or evil.

Buddha doesn't.
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Reply from leoj99
Apr.29.2013
12:29AM EDT 
vertical line Quote: "Why was there no mention of the Devil??
That is another one of man's beliefs that there is some thing bigger than man.
In those religions, there is God or Allah and there is the Devil or evil.

Buddha doesn't.
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There is.. Buddha Nature and Ego...lol
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Reply from cinchona
Apr.29.2013
02:13AM EDT 
vertical line Buddha speaks of samsara (infinite suffering)

could be percieved as being similar to hell.
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Reply from leoj99
Apr.29.2013
02:31AM EDT 
vertical line Yeah it is the Devil..
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Reply from leoj99
Apr.29.2013
02:33AM EDT 
vertical line It is because of the Ego that there is samsara.. 
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Reply from cinchona
Apr.29.2013
02:33AM EDT 
vertical line "The proof???? They wish for faith"

Maybe this is the place they unite, from here might become false perception, the ego of such a thought creating its reality in the minds of the individual.


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Reply from leoj99
Apr.29.2013
02:36AM EDT 
vertical line The tool of the Ego or the False Self is the thinking mind which think it is not empty. The ego is empty that is why it always wants to impose itself. How can something empty create something substantial..


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Apr.29.2013
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vertical line Quote: "Buddha speaks of samsara (infinite suffering)

could be percieved as being similar to hell.
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But, that is not the Devil.
Suffering is part of life and is what pushes peope toward Buddha seeking enightenment.
If there is no need for enightenment then why seek it?? .... hahahaha

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There is.. Buddha Nature and Ego...lol

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The ego is not the Devil.
And ego is not evil.
It is a part of you and necessary for dealing with life.

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Reply from justin
Apr.29.2013
10:50AM EDT 
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vertical line there is a buddhist hell, with many levels of purgatory, depending upon the punishment.

buddhists will go there and then after the appointed time, they will take on another body.

i mention this because human belief tends toward these things.

i do not know why,

and remember the tempting of Buddha under the bhodi tree, by maya.

buddha talked of evil and good, of Gods and demons.

Buddha also talked about teaching people wisdom according to their needs, from simple to complex.

Having said this he did preach aversion to the pantheon of hindi Gods and the connection to Brahman control.

Something i wonder about, Buddha said roughly "if you see the forest there with all the trees, and all the trees with all the leaves, well i have seen as many mysteries as all the leaves in that forest but this will not help you reach enlightenment. All that is needed is the number of leaves in my hand" (but Buddha saw).

If you see Buddhist temples and painting they are absolutely full of these things (mysterious creatures).
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Apr.29.2013
11:02AM EDT 
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vertical line as far as i can tell it is only Zen which denies these things and only a small part of Zen,

check out Lamaism, or Thai buddhism or most of the sects.

When i first noticed these things (myself coming from a Zen understanding) i was surprised to see this, nether the less it is there.

the only way i can appreciate it is by understanding peoples strong need to create these things, and i believe buddha accepted this (in a way) because he understood some gain is better then none at all.

can anyone really say there is no evil in the world ? evil being a word to describe the antithesis of good.

 it is ingrained within the cannon.


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Apr.29.2013
11:05AM EDT 
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vertical line i do not really understand the reasoning or the beliefs,

but to deny the existence of these ideas in Buddhism is just minimal research.


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Apr.29.2013
11:14AM EDT 
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vertical line there is something i like to share: i read many years ago that to have Satori is to see with the eyes of God. i can not of hand remember who said it but i do remember it was Zen.

i have had an experience which i could only describe that way, i have also had experience which i would contemplate and describe as the most normal thing ever.

having said those things i do not really know who watches the watcher or who is it which is aware ? or really what the awareness is of, i dont know squat really.

but it does seem there are those who can point the finger to the moon, and if they point they must have an understanding (especially considering they in a way predicted or informed us of things which by process of investigation have proved similar to my experience.)

every time i think of these things i smile because i know i shall never be bored :)
there is always more of the same nothing
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Reply from justin
Apr.29.2013
11:28AM EDT 
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vertical line what was i saying ?

i can not remember,

oh well two heads are better then one
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Reply from cinchona
Apr.29.2013
06:43PM EDT 
vertical line It is something to get to the moon
It is something else to witness its miracle before us.
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Reply from cinchona
Apr.29.2013
06:45PM EDT 
vertical line your lips have been moistened,
taste it.
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Reply from cinchona
Apr.29.2013
09:53PM EDT 
vertical line when i was a boy my father told me "Remember this one thing"
"No snowflake - ever falls - in the wrong place."
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Reply from justin
Apr.30.2013
11:58AM EDT 
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vertical line i think your father knew what he was talking about, he is one of those of whom i speak.
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