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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: NEW TO BUDDHISM: SEEKING GUIDES
vertical line Posted on Jul.02.2013 @ 08:25PM EDT by cluvbluv
I did not find Buddhism. Buddhism found me. Now I am seeking to develop a healthy and long lasting practice of this spiritual school of thought. The more I learn, the more I crave further knowledge. I have had a difficult time obtaining simple to follow steps for a rookie to the spiritual practice. So here I am reaching out to other Buddhists. I am in dyer need of guides and possibly future mentoring. Please, any help would be appreciated. I seek a life of deep spiritual practice thru leadership.
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Reply from *CSEe*
Jul.02.2013
09:30PM EDT 
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In my current understanding , no one could ever have any reason to teach others of Buddhism including Mr Siddharta himself because Buddhism is all about ownselve , is all about you knowing " you" and " yourself" , is all about discovering / learning / experiencing / knowing own emotion / desire / compassion / love / fear / anger / hate / ego etc leading to acceptance of " ownselve" and " emptiness" the original condition of all .

So in Buddhism is all about learning NEVER teaching . We could learn from all thing , anyone regardless their background / nature in discovering our ownselves .....everything / anyone is same and equal in Buddhism as all living or non-living is in own journey / own process releasing its polluted energy that causes their existance towards emptiness back into nothingness ..........all is alone and never connected .

Lets share views and learn .

Thks

CSEe

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Reply from Avisitor
Jul.03.2013
01:17AM EDT 
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vertical line If you seek a deep spiritual life then you must find a teacher and a sangha.
Teachers can be found in Zen or Buddhism centers.
Sangha is the group of people you share your practice with.

In practice, usually the first thing they teach is beginners meditation ... Zazen.
The steps are easy but difficult to master.
First get into a seated position with the back straight and the head aligned.
Second close the eyes and put your attention on your breathing.
When you breathe in, watch it carefully.
Then breathe out, again watch it carefully ... count one.
Repeat and count two.
Do this again until you reach ten and then start again at one.
At some time, while you are practicing this, you will lose count or your attention will drift.
Your mind will chase thoughts. Just let the thoughts come and go.
Don't chase or push out or try to control. Just let the mind calm on its own.
Whenever you realize you are not on your breathe, return to counting breathe.
Continue for twenty minutes or longer if you wish.
Do this every day.
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Reply from Avisitor
Jul.03.2013
01:20AM EDT 
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vertical line A good website for learning and discussion is ...
Here is a free flow and everything gets talked about.
At ZenForumInternational.org, it is a more serious and regulated site.
To each their own ... or you could try them both and see for yourself.
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Reply from so_teh
Jul.03.2013
01:35AM EDT 
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vertical line I'm listening to a barred owl right now. Would you listen with?
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Reply from Joe Chip
Jul.03.2013
06:29AM EDT 
vertical line Space guide into deep, deep silence RRRRRROOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRR

Everybody has a personal guide, according to which judgments are made: prejudice.

Life is a game and I am a serious man.

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Reply from football
Jul.03.2013
01:11PM EDT 
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vertical line Life is joy.
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Reply from so_teh
Jul.03.2013
01:43PM EDT 
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vertical line A legacy of nonthinkers, wanderers and happy men.
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Reply from Joe Chip
Jul.05.2013
07:25AM EDT 
vertical line There is no more a container nor a thing contained, so independent of signs, space doesn't exist.
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Reply from Sam Hardy
Jul.05.2013
09:56AM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "There is no more a container nor a thing contained, so independent of signs, space doesn't exist."
.........

Einstein would have something to say about that – if he existed.
Guess we’ll have to take your word for it, old Micro (only kidding – I’d never do that).

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Reply from Riverstone
Jul.06.2013
12:59PM EDT 
vertical line You will learn more about Buddhism among those who practice Buddhism. These websites are filled with those interested in philosophical debate rather than practice. Do not stop with one form of Buddhism, continue to search until you sense a teaching that "fits", they each point to the same thing and enable your practice. My "understanding" of Zen has been greatly amplified by my research into Bon "Buddhism", Dzogchen and Shambhala. I do not recommend remaining within an intellectual understanding alone. Go, where you will be taught meditation and mindfulness. I move freely among the Zen community here, Bon and Shambhala, though I have committed to Shambhala. I attend Dharma discussions at the Zen and Shambhala center both, though I feel my home is in Shambhala.

Zen was born at a time when Buddhism had transformed into a philosophy rather than a practice. When you discover this, you will understand why the Zen community is the way it is. A Buddhist traveler could wander from town to town teaching about "emptiness", but often a Zen practitioner/ teacher could turn this person upside down for standing on a concept or notion. It was a necessary evolution. This does now however discount the gradual paths which teach the structure and form, combining intellectual understanding with actual practice simultaneously.

Yet, when you see people here on these websites bandy about the word "Zen", they are involved in the very thing that Zen was born to cut away...the overly conceptualized, intellectual understanding, divorced from direct experience.

Zen can be discouraging if you have a belief that you are going to aquire something. It is more an uncovering of what is already there.
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Reply from Joe Chip
Jul.06.2013
01:06PM EDT 
vertical line Bandied. I hear you can buy cloud-spotter apps.
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Reply from Joe Chip
Jul.06.2013
01:20PM EDT 
vertical line Should I keep out of the internets?
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Reply from Joe Chip
Jul.06.2013
01:28PM EDT 
vertical line Between me and You, there's only me. But take away the me, and only You remains, so follow the guidelines and everything will be groovy.
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Reply from Joe Chip
Jul.06.2013
01:50PM EDT 
vertical line Absent Friends
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Reply from so_teh
Jul.06.2013
05:54PM EDT 
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vertical line The magic noob.
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Reply from so_teh
Jul.06.2013
08:22PM EDT 
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vertical line Reducing the path...

Understanding
Thought
Speech
Action
Livelihood
Effort
Mindfulness
Meditation

Accumulation
Joining
Seeing
Meditation
No More Learning

Spiritual Direction
Meditation

Choiceless Engagement
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Reply from so_teh
Jul.06.2013
09:51PM EDT 
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vertical line OM, AMITAYA! measure not with words
Th’ Immeasurable; nor sink the string of thought
Into the Fathomless. Who asks doth err,
Who answers, errs. Say nought!

The Books teach Darkness was, at first of all, 5
And Brahm, sole meditating in that Night:
Look not for Brahm and the Beginning there!
Nor him, nor any light

Shall any gazer see with mortal eyes,
Or any searcher know by mortal mind; 10
Veil after veil will lift—but there must be
Veil upon veil behind.

Stars sweep and question not. This is enough
That life and death and joy and woe abide;
And cause and sequence, and the course of time, 15
And Being’s ceaseless tide,

Which, ever changing, runs, linked like a river
By ripples following ripples, fast or slow—
The same yet not the same—from far-off fountain
To where its waters flow 20

Into the seas. These, steaming to the Sun,
Give the lost wavelets back in cloudy fleece
To trickle down the hills, and glide again;
Having no pause or peace.

This is enough to know, the phantasms are; 25
The Heavens, Earths, Worlds, and changes changing them,
A mighty whirling wheel of strife and stress
Which none can stay or stem.…

If ye lay bound upon the wheel of change,
And no way were of breaking from the chain, 30
The Heart of boundless Being is a curse,
The Soul of Things fell Pain.

Ye are not bound! the Soul of Things is sweet,
The Heart of Being is celestial rest;
Stronger than woe is will: that which was Good 35
Doth pass to Better—Best.

I, Buddh, who wept with all my brothers’ tears,
Whose heart was broken by a whole world’s woe,
Laugh and am glad, for there is Liberty!
Ho! ye who suffer! know 40

Ye suffer from yourselves. None else compels,
None other holds you that ye live and die,
And whirl upon the wheel, and hug and kiss
Its spokes of agony,

Its tire of tears, its nave of nothingness. 45
Behold, I show you Truth! Lower than hell,
Higher than Heaven, outside the utmost stars,
Farther than Brahm doth dwell,

Before beginning, and without an end,
As space eternal and as surety sure, 50
Is fixed a Power divine which moves to good,
Only its laws endure.…

That which ye sow ye reap. See yonder fields!
The sesamum was sesamum, the corn
Was corn. The Silence and the Darkness knew! 55
So is a man’s fate born.…

If he shall day by day dwell merciful,
Holy and just and kind and true; and rend
Desire from where it clings with bleeding roots,
Till love of life have end: 60

He—dying—leaveth as the sum of him
A life-count closed, whose ills are dead and quit
Whose good is quick and mighty, far and near,
So that fruits follow it.

No need hath such to live as ye name life; 65
That which began in him when he began
Is finished: he hath wrought the purpose through
Of what did make him Man.

Never shall yearnings torture him, nor sins
Stain him, nor ache of earthly joys and woes 70
Invade his safe eternal peace; nor deaths
And lives recur. He goes
Unto NIRVÂNA. He is one with Life,
Yet lives not. He is blest, ceasing to be.
OM, MANI PADME, OM! the Dewdrop slips 75
Into the shining sea!…

AH! BLESSED LORD! OH, HIGH DELIVERER!
FORGIVE THIS FEEBLE SCRIPT, WHICH DOTH THEE WRONG,
MEASURING WITH LITTLE WIT THY LOFTY LOVE.
AH! LOVER! BROTHER! GUIDE! LAMP OF THE LAW! 80
I TAKE MY REFUGE IN THY NAME AND THEE!
I TAKE MY REFUGE IN THY LAW OF GOOD!
I TAKE MY REFUGE IN THY ORDER! OM!
THE DEW IS ON THE LOTUS!—RISE, GREAT SUN!
AND LIFT MY LEAF AND MIX ME WITH THE WAVE. 85
OM MANI PADME HUM, THE SUNRISE COMES!
THE DEWDROP SLIPS INTO THE SHINING SEA!
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Reply from Joe Chip
Jul.08.2013
08:06AM EDT 
vertical line Do not believe that the Heaven you contemplate in the suprasensory is the visible sky. No, in the suprasensory there are other Skies, more subtle, bluer, purer, brighter, innumerable and limitless. The purer you become within, the purer and more beautiful is the Sky that appears to you, until finally you are walking in divine purity. But divine purity is also limitless. So never believe that beyond what you have reached, there is nothing more, nothing higher still.

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Know that the soul, the devil, the angel are not realities outside of you; you are they. Likewise Heaven and Earth are not outside of you, nor paradise, nor hell, nor death, nor life. They exist in you; when you have come out toward oneself, you will realise that.
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Reply from so_teh
Jul.08.2013
02:49PM EDT 
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vertical line Use your gut.
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Reply from so_teh
Jul.08.2013
04:24PM EDT 
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vertical line I work all day without ever working. My job is precisely work.
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Reply from so_teh
Jul.08.2013
04:58PM EDT 
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vertical line My emotions run high.
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