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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: WHAT IS CRAZY IS NORMAL OR SANE
vertical line Posted on Oct.05.2013 @ 03:02PM EDT by leoj99
In this world what is crazy is normal or sane. Actually we are all crazy but we think we are all sane...LOL ...What we think crazy is the only normal thing. Most people call it God inspired what is crazy...LOL
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Oct.05.2013
03:03PM EDT 
vertical line They call it Noble and Divine but actually it is crazy...LOL
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Reply from so_teh
Oct.05.2013
10:32PM EDT 
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vertical line I'm not denying my craziness but I am rejecting the craze.
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Reply from leoj99
Oct.06.2013
10:58PM EDT 
vertical line If we are not crazy so why if we practice Zen we sit zazen just facing a blank wall and counting the breath. Most crazy people call that a waste of time.

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Reply from leoj99
Oct.06.2013
11:03PM EDT 
vertical line If we are not crazy why do we need to be enlightened. An enlightened being is not recognized by crazy people. In fact if an enlightened being say something they kick his butt. I think some enlightened beings come to Zen Forums but since crazy people cannot recognized him they kick his butt and outright banned from the forums. How can crazy people recognized an enlightened being? It is impossible...lol.. only enlightened beings can recognize enlightened beings... lol
How can crazy people meet the Buddha since they cannot recognize him...lol
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Reply from justin
Oct.07.2013
08:35AM EDT 
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vertical line Enlightenment does not involve/have a concept of the individual
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Reply from leoj99
Oct.07.2013
11:04PM EDT 
vertical line Then crazy people make the rules for good conduct and impose those rules to everybody and everyone even enlightened beings with no exceptions. How could an enlightened being follow the rules of good conduct of crazy people...lol...impossible...lol
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Reply from leoj99
Oct.07.2013
11:05PM EDT 
vertical line Crazy people impose their will to everyone as God impose his will in the universe...lol
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Reply from leoj99
Oct.08.2013
02:12AM EDT 
vertical line Once you decide on Zen practice you need to sit everyday and go to several days of retreats many times a year in the hope that your craziness is stopped. You deserve to be beaten and keep silence in retreats. So what are those for if not to try to cure your craziness...lol
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Reply from leoj99
Oct.08.2013
02:15AM EDT 
vertical line You have to be patient and maintain the practice for years and years.. from 20 years to 30 years and more. So what else would convince you that you are really crazy...lol
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