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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: STAIRCASE AND THE CLIFF
vertical line Posted on Dec.27.2013 @ 12:40PM EDT by jaigon
One can plan out the adventure and prepare.  One takes the staircase making slow progress everyday, and eventually gets to the top.  A gradual enlightenment.

The other sees a cliff a jumps.  No preparation, and no plans.  The jump takes courage, but you are there instantly.

I seem to have taken the path of the staircase.  I'm curious which path you have taken

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Reply from football
Dec.27.2013
01:05PM EDT 
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vertical line I'II answer wait a minute
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Reply from so_teh
Dec.27.2013
04:34PM EDT 
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vertical line Darkness is ahead, light is the present and every step is the adventure unfolding.
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Reply from football
Dec.27.2013
06:35PM EDT 
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vertical line Everything is Ok in biggest perspective.
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Reply from justin
Dec.27.2013
10:06PM EDT 
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vertical line the staicase and then the cliff, there was a point where i realised the stairs were not neded and actually for me i found they were impediment, so i jumped. not saying i know anything bt i found fear was my enemy.

and the void with no safety is the only reality safety is an illusion.

i decided to go on i needed to be free from illusionary holds,

i think in truth these things just drop away by themselves when i saw them for what they are
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Reply from leoj99
Dec.28.2013
07:33PM EDT 
vertical line Foremost you should be brave and patient...LOL
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Reply from leoj99
Dec.28.2013
07:35PM EDT 
vertical line No pushy pushy.. easy to believe what others says...LOL..
Be independent and rely on  yourself..
What Zen Masters do is push you to be yourself and independent..LOL
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Reply from leoj99
Dec.28.2013
10:18PM EDT 
vertical line If you are afraid not think.. then you are a goner...LOL..
You should not be afraid of anything.. anything at all..LOL
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Reply from justin
Dec.29.2013
11:25AM EDT 
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vertical line yes fear is creating illusionary ideas, living in the future from experience of the past. Neither of these are correct. or real.

caution and safe behavior (not jumping of cliffs etc) are sensible but not to be feared.

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Reply from jaigon
Dec.29.2013
12:51PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "No pushy pushy.. easy to believe what others says...LOL..
Be independent and rely on  yourself..
What Zen Masters do is push you to be yourself and independent..LOL
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.........It always makes me wonder why most people need to be pushed to be themselves.  Is it because nature creates false illusions for us?  Imagine if no one needed pushing and everyone was enlightened from birth to death
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Reply from leoj99
Dec.29.2013
07:19PM EDT 
vertical line Because you are conditioned.. you were always told.. you must follow the teachings...LOL... no one knows to be themselves...so a Zen Masters is left no choice rather than push everyone...LOL+
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Reply from so_teh
Dec.29.2013
07:29PM EDT 
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vertical line We should act on our glimpses of transcendence. The kensho will fall off in a few days so we want to jump on the opportunity.
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Reply from cinchona
Dec.30.2013
07:47AM EDT 
vertical line If you are not yourself then who are you?
If you are yourself then how do you be yourself again?
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