The Buddha once said this to the Bhikkhus:
"Bhikkhus, as to the source through which perceptions and notions tinged by mental proliferation beset a man: if nothing is found there to delight in, welcome and hold to,
the staicase and then the cliff, there was a point where i realised the stairs were not neded and actually for me i found they were impediment, so i jumped. not saying i know anything bt i found fear was my enemy.
and the void with no safety is the only reality safety is an illusion.
i decided to go on i needed to be free from illusionary holds,
i think in truth these things just drop away by themselves when i saw them for what they are
Quote: "No pushy pushy.. easy to believe what others says...LOL.. Be independent and rely on yourself.. What Zen Masters do is push you to be yourself and independent..LOL " .........It always makes me wonder why most people need to be pushed to be themselves. Is it because nature creates false illusions for us? Imagine if no one needed pushing and everyone was enlightened from birth to death