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vertical line Posted on Jan.10.2014 @ 04:31PM EDT by urgent

What is the place of helpfulness in Zen?
We All know the Bodhisattva vow to save all beings;

"Sentient beings are numberless; I vow to save them all.
Desires are inexhaustible; I vow to end them all.
The Dharma Gates are infinite; I vow to enter them all.
The Buddha Way is unexcelled; I vow to attain it completely."

to be a Bodhisattva is my valuable goal.
Here I live in a Muslim country.They say Islam is 'Beautiful Morality'.
And I say Zen is helpfulness.
Do you agree?

What do you think?


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Reply from so_teh
Jan.10.2014
04:56PM EDT 
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vertical line Zen is expressing so (conforming with reality or the fact) to live so (as-it-is). This is very helpful.
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Reply from so_teh
Jan.11.2014
01:34AM EDT 
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vertical line Silence overall.
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Reply from Riverstone
Jan.11.2014
02:05AM EDT 
vertical line Being caught in the frame of reference of a Delusion. From this Zen provides freedom. The outcome is that the desire for the well being of all beings is natural. Tell me from what Dellusion would we suffer, that if we were freed from it, we would suddenly care for all beings?
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Reply from urgent
Jan.11.2014
06:19AM EDT 
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vertical line I've Following White Metod (as which I've named).I've told some about at the other threads. It consist whatever you need.It is the beginning and the end(after) of the road.It simply is about to Follow White.I highly recommend to everyone.I don't feel any need for any other thing.
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Reply from justin
Jan.11.2014
07:07AM EDT 
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vertical line the delusion which if freed from would encourage us to care for all yhings is the delusion of self, as seperate to all things.

once we realise the conectedness of all we are less inclined to damage or not care,

and realising that all things are conected and/ one enables compassion.  names like dog, enemy, lion, bum, are for the purpose of disconection.

the first rule of war is to de-humanise the enemy.


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Reply from justin
Jan.11.2014
07:13AM EDT 
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vertical line we are all the continuation of humanity, which is continuation of all species, which are groups of elements which are the tools of universe which is the all.

simple

i wwould suggest the mind set we find ourselves in is an achievement without equal, the ability to completely disdregard logic and sense is amazing in itself.

all we need do is turn off the tv, stop reading the book, stop the incessant material distractions for a brief time and boom there it is easy to see.
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Jan.11.2014
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Quote: "I've Following White Metod (as which I've named).I've told some about at the other threads. It consist whatever you need.It is the beginning and the end(after) of the road.It simply is about to Follow White.I highly recommend to everyone.I don't feel any need for any other thing."
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After writing this I noticed something, this following white method and the thread helpfulness are alltogether may mean the rib bone. which is already expressed at the holy book as 'we have created from the rib bone'

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Jan.11.2014
06:23PM EDT 
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vertical line Materialism and nihilism are the foul. Nature is the white.
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