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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: WHAT DO YOU EXPERIENCE IN ZAZEN
vertical line Posted on Apr.12.2014 @ 02:40AM EDT by leoj99
People in Zen forums just say sit.. zazen is sitting meditation but they never elaborate of their experience in zazen.. what happened.. they say they just watch their thoughts come and go... they say don't stop your thoughts.. just watch them come and go.. maybe just like watching a movie...LOL

So what did you experienced when you sit in zazen...?

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Reply from leoj99
Apr.12.2014
02:42AM EDT 
vertical line So you become a watcher of thoughts.. not a sitter in meditation...LOL..
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Reply from leoj99
Apr.12.2014
02:42AM EDT 
vertical line So what is the difference of a watcher and a sitter...LOL
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Reply from urgent
Apr.12.2014
03:49PM EDT 
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watcher watch sitter sit hahaha...

okay, Do you know the Wild West? quick wins in the wild west.

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Reply from leoj99
Apr.12.2014
04:42PM EDT 
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watcher watch sitter sit hahaha...

okay, Do you know the Wild West? quick wins in the wild west.

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Yeah I know in the west they always want to watch.. always like entertainment...LOL

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Reply from leoj99
Apr.12.2014
08:11PM EDT 
vertical line A watcher observes and he is the observer... a sitter dissolves the observed and the observer....LOL
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Reply from leoj99
Apr.12.2014
08:13PM EDT 
vertical line So how can you do that. It is so simple.. just stop thinking...LOL
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Reply from leoj99
Apr.12.2014
08:16PM EDT 
vertical line Have you ever experienced that you body seemed to disappear.. or at least your body is so light.. as light as a feather... and how often you experience it.. you should experience it in every zazen session...
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Reply from leoj99
Apr.13.2014
02:22AM EDT 
vertical line If you had experienced your body is as light as a feather.. you have touched stillness...so if not.. become a sitter .. not a watcher...LOL
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Reply from leoj99
Apr.13.2014
02:25AM EDT 
vertical line If your body is heavy.. then you must not be doing it right...LOL
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Reply from Woodsman
Apr.13.2014
10:35AM EDT 
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vertical line Sit in silence and listen to what is without a word.
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Reply from Avisitor
Apr.15.2014
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vertical line The mind is like a snow globe constantly agitated.
Zazen is simply to allow the snow globe to sit and calm itself.
What one experiences is not extra-ordinary.
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Reply from leoj99
Apr.15.2014
02:23AM EDT 
vertical line But stillness is very rare....LOL
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Reply from leoj99
Apr.15.2014
02:36AM EDT 
vertical line An analogy given by a senior student in our Sangha who is now a Roshi.. is sitting is you are like an iceberg... you can see only the tip of the iceberg which is above water... the part submerged is so enourmous.. so sitting is like drilling a shaft from the tip to the bottom of the iceberg so water could come out from the tip and eventually break the enourmous iceber...LOL
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Reply from justin
Apr.18.2014
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vertical line wow that guy has a great imagination, he puts it to good use during his Zazen. 
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Apr.18.2014
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Reply from leoj99
Apr.19.2014
04:35AM EDT 
vertical line Well he has to use an analogy that beginners understands and a good challenge. If he says zazen or sitting is .. This ... no one will understand it.. or worse new students thinks he is crazy and they will never come back to the zendo.

On my first 5-day sesshin.. I almost went home on the third day because my body seems can no longer endure the pains of sitting all day.. I thought everyone are crazy doing those sesshins..LOL..
It was good I was persuaded to stay by my Teacher...LOL
Doing sesshins is actually like drilling a shaft in an iceberg...LOL
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