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  Chang-ch'o, an educated man, once asked the Chinese Ch'an master Chih-t'sang:
-Is there paradise or hell?
Chih-t'sang replied:
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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: TO FEEL PITY FOR
vertical line Posted on Jun.27.2014 @ 04:19PM EDT by ---T e
What is it to feel pity for?Are there people you feel pity for around you?
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Reply from so_teh
Jun.27.2014
04:55PM EDT 
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vertical line In Zen there is no pity, you just move continuously around and within yourself. Basically, you find within yourself, your Self. and come to peace.
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Reply from frozenaomi
Jun.27.2014
10:53PM EDT 
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vertical line  But life is suffering.  Dukkha.  Aught we not pity everybody as everybody pities us?  Isn't that the least step toward compassion?
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Reply from Phil Space
Jun.28.2014
07:57AM EDT 
vertical line What a pity people are so selfish and stupid going around and around in pity for themselves, eh?
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Reply from Phil Space
Jun.29.2014
08:29PM EDT 
vertical line But each character
Is plundering my home
And taking everything that is my own

Oh no, I'm not sure about
Those things that I care about
Oh no, I'm not sure, not any more ...
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Reply from ---T e
Jun.30.2014
05:24AM EDT 
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vertical line Let's say everything is perfect.Moon rise.Is there a thing to feel pity for?What comes next?
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Reply from Phil Space
Jul.01.2014
01:15PM EDT 
vertical line That's what you say. I couldn't possibly comment.
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Reply from Avisitor
Jul.01.2014
09:59PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: " But life is suffering.  Dukkha.  Aught we not pity everybody as everybody pities us?  Isn't that the least step toward compassion?/>"
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Pity and compassion are not the same.

Pity is to feel sorry for another person's sorrows
Compassion is the ability to feel as another person does and to be able to love them as oneself.
A step toward compassion would be to lose one's sense of self ...

Life has suffering. But, life is not suffering.
For me, there have been good times and lots of pleasure.
And, suffering ... there have been times of loss, family and friends dying from cancer.

A tooth ache brings with it .. pain.
That is not suffering.
Suffering is clinging to the moments of no pain while in pain.
Suffering is wanting to bring the loved ones back to life when life has ceased for them.
It doesn't mean to not cry when they pass away. We still feel.
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Reply from Phil Space
Jul.02.2014
07:25PM EDT 
vertical line Sweetness and suffering are inseparable - the one creates the other - what a brilliant dodge - everything is sweet; everything is suffering.
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Reply from Phil Space
Jul.03.2014
05:51AM EDT 
vertical line Yet doth he suffer as a mortal doth.
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