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  One day, a monk traveled into the mountain where Gensha Shibi resided
to see the Zen master and study Zen with him. The monk said to Gensha:
-I am a new comer, please be kind to tell me where I can enter the Zen gate.
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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: CAUSES OF SUFFERING IN THE WORLD
vertical line Posted on Sep.25.2016 @ 06:13AM EDT by ---T e
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Noble_Truths

from the notes:The meaning of the truths is as follows:[23][16][web 3]Dukkha, "incapable of satisfying,"[web 2] painful.[4][5] Life in this "mundane world,"[web 3] with its craving and clinging to impermanent states and things,[4] is dukkha,[3]unsatisfactory and painful;[web 2][4][5][6][18][web 3]Samudaya, the origination or arising of dukkha. Dukkha, and repeated life in this world, arises with ta?ha, "thirst," craving for and clinging to these impermanent states and things.


So impermanence therefore suffering.Then How do you make impermanence to permanence.It is with going in same speed with impermanence.As if like going with same speed with light.We call this Zen. Zen is the cure of impermanence.the cure of dukkha.

Last part is mine.Sorry for less english.




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Sep.26.2016
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Sep.26.2016
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7 kilo straw
I said wait, are you an animal lover?
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Sep.26.2016
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Sep.26.2016
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Sep.26.2016
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vertical line Reality (ultimate concept) -

Who is here?

Suchness (actual reality) -

I am

Impermanence (causes and conditions) -

This is because that is

Karma (action) -

Where am I going?

I (body, mind, feeling, formations, perception) -

Cool desire, calm ocean

Colloquy: Letting go of everything
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Sep.26.2016
04:12PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "Cool desire, calm ocean "
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Sep.27.2016
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vertical line WHERE DID YOU COME FROM WHEN YOU WERE BORN?
Tri Bao was the Vietnamese Zen master of the 10th generation of the linage of Vo Ngon Thong.
When he did not realize yet the Tao, he happened meeting a Zen monk. The Zen monk asked him:
- Where did you come from when you were born, where will you return to when you die?
He was thinking, the monk said:
- When you are thinking, the white clouds in the sky have gone ten thousand miles away.
He could not say a word. The monk said loudly:
- A good temple but no Buddha.
The monk then left. He felt pity for himself and said:
- I am a monk but do not yet get the essence of a monk at all.
Then he wandered everywhere to seek the good teachers and study with them. When he called on
the Zen master Ðao Hue in Tien Du, he asked Ðao Hue the question that the Zen monk had asked him.
Ðao Hue said:
- When you were born you came from nowhere, when you die you return to nowhere.
He asked:
- If so, it would fall into the empty space, wouldn't it? Ðao Hue said:
- The True Nature is marvelous and complete, its essence is true empty and quiet, it functions as it does,
and is free from life and death. Therefore, when you were born you came from nowhere, when you die
you return to nowhere.
Right at the words, he realized it and said:
"If there were no wind that blew all the clouds away,
How could the clear sky be seen throughout ten thousand miles?"
Ðao Hue asked:
- What did you see?
He replied:
- People under the sky know each other, but just a few are good friends.
Then he bowed to say goodbye and went back to his mountain.
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Sep.27.2016
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Sep.27.2016
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Sep.27.2016
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vertical line delicious.Iron Maiden (the music group) is saying "run to the hills" I change it to "run like you".In the end you are saying the same thing.

What it is, it is (beautiful sentence which is the summary)
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Sep.27.2016
08:18AM EDT 
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vertical line today's dailyzen

Each night I gaze upon a pond,
A Zen body sitting beside a moon.
Nothing is really there and yet
It is all so clear and bright
I cannot describe it.
If you would know the empty mind
Your own mind must be as clear and bright
As this full moon upon the water.- Chiao Jan (785–895)
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Sep.27.2016
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Sep.27.2016
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Sep.27.2016
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Sep.27.2016
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vertical line If there is no message in music, just silence between the sound, an empty stomach filled with illusions of fullness, what then? What now?
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Sep.27.2016
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Sep.27.2016
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vertical line How about the crazed crows of the wood and fields, and goofy geese of the North, going back and forth at the same junction around the rising moon. Their future is go straight but their past is wild and inconsistent.
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Sep.27.2016
06:32PM EDT 
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vertical line And also we are at the end of the ninth month so if you were waiting on something this year and it never showed up I suggest you discontinue your wait and renew your will to live without it. There's no sense in spending the cold seasons in grief for a thing desired that doesn't exist. You could warm up a muffin and tea as to mind the presence herenow.
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Sep.27.2016
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vertical line What now? You must fast. Nothing but water.

Where to? As I mentioned before, I've vanished many times in the past.
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Sep.27.2016
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vertical line I'm just thinking, and perhaps have felt at times that our suffering is exotic, and our planet blue.
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Sep.27.2016
07:55PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "Truth is what I give the meaning to it, right? thoughts on?"
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Could you please answer my question?
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Sep.27.2016
08:24PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "Reality (ultimate concept) -

Who is here?

Suchness (actual reality) -

I am

Impermanence (causes and conditions) -

This is because that is

Karma (action) -

Where am I going?

I (body, mind, feeling, formations, perception) -

Cool desire, calm ocean

Colloquy: Letting go of everything
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Since our actions of the ultimate concept that suchness.Does the impermanence of I is the result of cool desire, calm ocean?
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Sep.27.2016
08:47PM EDT 
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vertical line The thought you come with,
 is the thought you have,
and the thought you have,
 is the thought that goes,
until the next thought you come with.
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Sep.27.2016
09:01PM EDT 
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vertical line Cool desire, calm ocean
beautifuly expressed


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Sep.27.2016
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vertical line may be I shouldn't think!+ unfortunately I do

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Sep.27.2016
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vertical line Forever in love with nothing particular.
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Sep.27.2016
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vertical line Just be just you.

Don't be other than you.

And make absolutely certain you know the difference.



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Sep.28.2016
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vertical line Just be just me ?

Am I the thinking one or (the other) nonthinking?
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Sep.28.2016
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vertical line The words came as fast and black as I could read. They were written on the sky in rain and on the faces of the stony mountains, the winter barren trees. A murder of crows came and gathered them all up. But the people could not understand it and their minds were unable to contain it.
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Sep.28.2016
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vertical line today's dailyzen

Don’t say that only 
clear water mirrors the moon.
Muddy water also reflects the sky.
Watch, after wind has settled 
and the waves are calm,
for a wonderful moon, as lovely as before.

- Lin Chi Chung (1119)

Thank you dailyzen stuff.For their help.

So if our idea is to know.to know everything.
Our point is should be to sharpen our vision or sight.day by day.

And may be
who knows
when you 'don't know' anything
only then you will be able to know everything.
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Sep.28.2016
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Sep.28.2016
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Sep.28.2016
06:14AM EDT 
vertical line A magician's nest of thoughts:

The product Buddhism sells is freedom from suffering, and it can't sell its product unless it convinces people that they are suffering.

The dualistic distinction between the idea of free-will and no-free-will begs the question 'causal-chain determinism or block-universe determinism?'

Drop your pants and watch mother nature swoon. Wipe the pyramids off your shoes and see the man in the moon cringe at your tread. Live forever and remember it afterwards.
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vertical line Oh yeah, hmm, I almost forgot: Animals are just like us, only better.
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Sep.28.2016
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vertical line Quote: "today's dailyzen

Each night I gaze upon a pond,
A Zen body sitting beside a moon.
Nothing is really there and yet
It is all so clear and bright
I cannot describe it.
IF YOU WANT TO KNOW EVERYTHING
Your own mind must be as clear and bright
As this full moon upon the water.- Chiao Jan (785–895)m>"
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Sep.28.2016
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vertical line It is not the written
It's not the seen
It is not whatsoever
It is the meaning I give to it

I AM HERE
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Sep.28.2016
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Sep.28.2016
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Sep.28.2016
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vertical line Come and behold the letters by which the heavens and earth were created ...
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Sep.28.2016
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vertical line Look at the top and you will see some power. Look at the bottom and you will see some power. But when it is known that power is just what you are you cease to crave power. And when you learn to know yourself you drop the known [ego] and exercise freedom in the one and only way freedom works. How does freedom work? Use your wisdom to find out.
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vertical line Reality, Truth and Freedom I think both are shadows of each other.
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Sep.30.2016
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vertical line Do you see suffering? Surely you'd understand silence by now. But do you really see suffering? I doubt many do.
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vertical line Quote: "Reality, Truth and Freedom I think both are shadows of each other."
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_I am here
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_Reality is here


Reality is very small for me ¿
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vertical line What a time it is to see a nightmare so utterly clear.
What a time it is to be alive among the dead.
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vertical line I was out at the pub last night helping my dad's band set up and tear down. I drive up around 1am waiting for the band to get done and I'm listening to the conversation going on outside the bar while I'm sitting there in my van. How they were talking about the leadership of the U.S., Hilary and Trump, was sheer mockery, disregard and indifference. All I could think was what a disappointment, what a kind of ungratefulness, what a shame. All the while drunkenness has gone far beyond the bottle, into this insidious, creeping egoism, between individuals and the collective consciousness. I don't really know to be honest but I still have trust in the compassionate essence of humanity. Still, leadership is discouraging and I'm not waiting on 'them.'
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Jan.16.2017
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vertical line Impermanence is permanent.Impermanence is permanence. Is.
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vertical line hippy zen
overlaps my nature
helicopter around you

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my humble try.
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vertical line The Way is...

innocence and playfulness

nothing and everything

always free

always open

always here and now

alive, welcome, embracing all

Be the Way.
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vertical line Power. This is desire. This is the fight of suffering everyday. Contemplate power. The whole thing. Figure it out. Think it out loud. Watch it. Touch it. Know it. For your own sake. Tust your findings. Not examples made by others.

What is power? How are you powerful? Why power?
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Jan.17.2017
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vertical line True Dharma
refreshing thoughts
none the less
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vertical line Somewhere you were conditioned by what you saw and heard. Thought started turning, thinking. Now you're in a karmic wheel. And thought cannot get you out of the spin. What must you do? What must I do? Two perceptions are false, four, eight, sixteen. A world falls fast together. And consciousness buries everyone with it. What do you do?
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vertical line You will never be remembered, no one knows your name.
When the music changes then all is broken down,
Mighty cities laid to ruin, burning to the ground.
Murder is become the law; you cannot make a stand,
Chaos rules the world, now mortal, brotherhood of man.
You cannot hide the truth from me I know what's in your heart,
Greed and jealousy each equal, all your days now dark.
Mighty mountains fall in dust the world falls into hell,
Faith in lying prophets, no one to lift the spell.
Monsters rule your world are you too scared to understand?
You shall be forever judged and you shall surely hang,
We live and scrape in misery; we die by our own hand,
And still we murder our own children, brotherhood of man.
Blood on all our hands we cannot hope to wash them clean,
History is mystery, do you know what it means?
Slaughter, kill and fighting still and murdered where we stand,
Our legacy is lunacy, brotherhood of man.
We are worse than animals, we hunger for the kill.
We put our faith in maniacs, the triumph of the will,
We kill for money, wealth and lust, for this we should be damned.
We are disease upon the world, brotherhood of man.

MOTORHEAD
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Jan.25.2017
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vertical line A Day Off On Paradise Earth

Let go of what has passed
Let go of what may come
Let go of what is happening now
Don't try to figure anything out
Don't try to make anything happen
Relax, right now, and rest

Have a day
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be serious
The Mind is Grass and Tree
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-eRPPenY6Mc
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vertical line To have a meaning, to get a meanning or to educe about something is childish?

And how important is to have a meaning?thank you
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Mu?
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