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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: TO BE EXPECTED..?
vertical line Posted on Apr.10.2017 @ 06:21AM EDT by merseymale
Hi
My 1st post!

I got involved with Bhudism many years ago with something called NKT but it was too involved for me & I got out as it were

Now I am older I tealisr that I am a VERY indisciplined person & perhaps I should have 'stuck with it' -or with ANYthing! ;-)

Then I discovered Alan Watts on YouTube & was very impressed but (usefully) without any idea why so when I found a well regarded Zen centre very close by I got involved straight away

I found it difficult (surprise!! surprise!!) because there is SO much once incence, chanting, memorising, ritual, walking etc & when I commented on this I was told "well you wouldn't want to come out here just to sit still in a room full of strangers would you?" But THAT bit of the activities is the part I find useful

I imagine that the others can manage meditation well enough at home but I cannot. I am a follower not a leader, alas & am better learner in a group setting

So perhaps this post's title should read "is it necessary..?"

Am I expecting too little of a religion?

Am I just being distracted & ill disciplined?

I can't bring myself to go back & do things when I prefer to 'do nothing' so to speak! Am I being lazy?

ANY thought would be gratefully considered & Thank You in advance
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Apr.11.2017
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vertical line Watch your shadows.
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Reply from Avisitor
Apr.12.2017
08:21PM EDT 
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vertical line If you try to make yourself disciplined then you are forcing yourself to do things which are not what you want.
The flow of life is wanting the things one has and to be happy with them
So, you need to figure out what it is you really want and then follow your heart.
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Reply from Avisitor
Jul.25.2022
11:51PM EDT 
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vertical line To be expected?
I love the time spent together learning the truth of the self while in the midst of people all sitting around together. The days run together and change seems slow or not at all. Expectation seems to make it take all the more time. This too makes me wonder if I am right for this.
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Reply from so_teh
Jul.26.2022
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vertical line Understanding is painful only if you are nowhere to share it.
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Reply from Avisitor
Jul.27.2022
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vertical line I feel no pain and I have no one to share this type of experience.
Still there is a loneliness that there is no one here to add to the experience.
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Reply from so_teh
Jul.28.2022
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vertical line Language is everyone's burden. Use it but don't be used by it.
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Jul.29.2022
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vertical line That is a tough one to do.
Use language but do not be used by it.
Considering that most thoughts are put in terms of language
How does one not get used by it?
To be able to conceive an idea, one uses thoughts or language
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