When Yang-shan Hui-chi (807-883), as a young monk, paid a visit to the Ch'an master Hsing-k'ung, there was a monk who asked Hsing-k'ung:
-What is the meaning of the Patriarch's coming from the West?
Posted on Apr.10.2017 @ 06:21AM EDTbymerseymale
Hi My 1st post!
I got involved with Bhudism many years ago with something called NKT but it was too involved for me & I got out as it were
Now I am older I tealisr that I am a VERY indisciplined person & perhaps I should have 'stuck with it' -or with ANYthing! ;-)
Then I discovered Alan Watts on YouTube & was very impressed but (usefully) without any idea why so when I found a well regarded Zen centre very close by I got involved straight away
I found it difficult (surprise!! surprise!!) because there is SO much once incence, chanting, memorising, ritual, walking etc & when I commented on this I was told "well you wouldn't want to come out here just to sit still in a room full of strangers would you?" But THAT bit of the activities is the part I find useful
I imagine that the others can manage meditation well enough at home but I cannot. I am a follower not a leader, alas & am better learner in a group setting
So perhaps this post's title should read "is it necessary..?"
Am I expecting too little of a religion?
Am I just being distracted & ill disciplined?
I can't bring myself to go back & do things when I prefer to 'do nothing' so to speak! Am I being lazy?
ANY thought would be gratefully considered & Thank You in advance
If you try to make yourself disciplined then you are forcing yourself to do things which are not what you want. The flow of life is wanting the things one has and to be happy with them So, you need to figure out what it is you really want and then follow your heart.
To be expected? I love the time spent together learning the truth of the self while in the midst of people all sitting around together. The days run together and change seems slow or not at all. Expectation seems to make it take all the more time. This too makes me wonder if I am right for this.
That is a tough one to do. Use language but do not be used by it. Considering that most thoughts are put in terms of language How does one not get used by it? To be able to conceive an idea, one uses thoughts or language