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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: ZAZEN
vertical line Posted on May.05.2018 @ 02:28PM EDT by Enver m.
We all know what is zazen.

my humble question is zazen a state of being stupid?
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May.05.2018
02:30PM EDT 
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vertical line ps: non thinking means being stupid
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May.05.2018
03:44PM EDT 
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vertical line Iced Earth-I Died For You

https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=mUGuF8hpMQs
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May.06.2018
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vertical line be like water
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May.20.2018
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vertical line Except when you're frozen.
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May.20.2018
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May.20.2018
08:55AM EDT 
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vertical line The thing about stupid is you can't point it out until you recognize you're being one.
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May.20.2018
08:58AM EDT 
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vertical line In other words it's your responsibility to recognize that you are being stupid. Let's face it, you'll never agree to someone who is calling out your stupidity.
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May.20.2018
09:06AM EDT 
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vertical line Once you don't want.then you wish for it,

What is that?
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Reply from Phil Space
May.20.2018
10:18AM EDT 
vertical line That? That is caring about what the neighbours think. That is what that is.
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Jul.16.2018
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vertical line Quote: "We all know what is zazen.

my humble question is zazen a state of being stupid?

ps: non thinking means being stupid
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No, apparently we all don't know what is zazen.
It is not a state of being stupid.
It is a state of focus and heighten awareness
It is a state of letting go of thought
It is a state of being here, now

How can anyone, who has spent some time with a teacher, not know it???
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Jul.17.2018
03:56AM EDT 
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Jul.17.2018
06:21AM EDT 
vertical line Avisitor is working for the archons - he's trying to put you in the 'fight or flight' mode.
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Jul.17.2018
12:58PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "Quote: "We all know what is zazen.

my humble question is zazen a state of being stupid?

ps: non thinking means being stupid
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No, apparently we all don't know what is zazen.
It is not a state of being stupid.
It is a state of focus and heighten awareness
It is a state of letting go of thought
It is a state of being here, now

How can anyone, who has spent some time with a teacher, not know it???
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Peace
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Jul.17.2018
11:48PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "Avisitor is working for the archons - he's trying to put you in the 'fight or flight' mode."
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As long as you understand, you can proceed ... lol
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Jul.18.2018
07:33AM EDT 
vertical line You're up against the Aeons and the Anarchonists, so I'm guessing you won't be proceeding too far.
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Jul.20.2018
08:56AM EDT 
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vertical line Are you stupid Enver? Maybe you are.
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Jul.20.2018
09:57AM EDT 
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vertical line I do want to be pure like a pearl.

to be = Zazen

pure = Reality (it is whatever it is)

(like a) pearl = Following White Method




Dogen has said pearl is our original nature.


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Jul.20.2018
04:20PM EDT 
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vertical line Hmm, I'll come back when I see some Zen Behavior.
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Jul.20.2018
07:03PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "Hmm, I'll come back when I see some Zen Behavior."
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That could be a long time
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Reply from Phil Space
Jul.21.2018
04:37AM EDT 
vertical line The swines. The swines have just triggered a get-out option/clause. You are now free, without let or hindrance, to resign from their movies.

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Jul.21.2018
11:45PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "Are you stupid Enver? Maybe you are. "
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Please review your posting content. This is a zen/buddhism discussion forum. Messages containing, but not limited to, the following contents will be deleted and may result in permanent suspension of your account. This is your ONLY warning.
Personal attack on an individual or group
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Jul.22.2018
04:27AM EDT 
vertical line Up to your old tricks again, I see.
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Jul.22.2018
07:15AM EDT 
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vertical line I just want to practice.Lively.I do want to have joy in my daily living.
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Jul.22.2018
07:23AM EDT 
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vertical line And it is the stupidness of mine as spending my whole day with doing nothing no efort about practicing and waiting the joy to come and find me.
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Jul.22.2018
07:46AM EDT 
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vertical line I'm just surfing in the internet.

look the word "inter-net".funny.

and not on the life-net.

just reading on zazen.

And wondering where will this light rope will break off?

Avisitor would you give me some tips?

I have a lot of free time but i'm just wasting my whole time
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Jul.22.2018
07:58AM EDT 
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Jul.22.2018
08:01AM EDT 
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vertical line I think the question is "what keeps one back from practicing?"

again i think the answer is; sleeping

then am i sleeping?

Yes, "deeply..."
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Jul.22.2018
08:02AM EDT 
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vertical line Could someone "wake me, up?"
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Jul.22.2018
08:04AM EDT 
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Jul.22.2018
09:09AM EDT 
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vertical line I give my final decision.

I will do my first zazen today.

And nothing keeps me back.
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Jul.22.2018
09:16AM EDT 
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vertical line What is funny is Why does it take too long?

15 years...

What was I dealing with?

I don't want to think even.

It can be a nightmare.

I just wasted my years.
And it is over.
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Jul.22.2018
09:20AM EDT 
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vertical line to be or not to be..that's the case
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Jul.22.2018
09:24AM EDT 
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vertical line to contemplate the infinite from the top of the mountain, it must first be climbed
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Reply from Phil Space
Jul.22.2018
11:11AM EDT 
vertical line Welcome to the dream of you.
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Reply from Enver m.
Jul.22.2018
02:10PM EDT 
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vertical line I did my first zazen.

15 min.

let open the window half open.
was very helpful.i think this is necessary for to cultivate
the right mind and attention.

each time when i get lost in thoughts the noises from outside take me back.

eary sense was prior

was groggy

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Jul.22.2018
02:26PM EDT 
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vertical line 20 min. passed like one minute

i don't understand this.

i was expecting just the opposite

Anyway, i will do zazen regularly
one time for each day +read one
internet page about zazen

i think it will be good to catch
the hungry time for zazen
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Jul.22.2018
07:54PM EDT 
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vertical line So I was just thinking...

There are five primary human desires:

1) Hunger
2) Sleep
3) Sex
4) Material Wealth
5) Fame

Although there are great uses for an internet connection and the internet itself the majority of users will use it for social media purposes.

What the internet has become is an outlet for fame to those who wouldn't have otherwise become famous. People need to be popular.

Generalizing here; I believe a big part of internet users are trying really hard to get noticed. Even on a forum of 3 like Zenguide.

"And for that reason, I'm out."
- Shark Tank (TV show)
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Jul.23.2018
01:04AM EDT 
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vertical line second zazen..

10 min.

first try early in the morning

window was half open

too many thoughts, must develop a calm mind
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Jul.23.2018
01:31AM EDT 
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vertical line I begin working on How to develop a calm mind?

to be able to understand Zazen mind.

I know where to start.

cause I know what my mind is dealing with behind my subconscious
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Jul.23.2018
03:59AM EDT 
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vertical line I know where my mind is dwelling.

At first Zen requires non thinking

You find your head at the last second step.
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Jul.23.2018
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vertical line Quote: "So I was just thinking...

There are five primary human desires:

1) Hunger
2) Sleep
3) Sex
4) Material Wealth
5) Fame

Although there are great uses for an internet connection and the internet itself the majority of users will use it for social media purposes.

What the internet has become is an outlet for fame to those who wouldn't have otherwise become famous. People need to be popular.

Generalizing here; I believe a big part of internet users are trying really hard to get noticed. Even on a forum of 3 like Zenguide.

"And for that reason, I'm out."
- Shark Tank (TV show)
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If you think I am here for fame that means you don't understand me.
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Jul.23.2018
05:56AM EDT 
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vertical line did my third zazen

7.37 min

i begin to understand zazen mind:This is no head zen,
you don't know anything, expect nothing.
as if you don't have a mind just like a clear mirror being without mind.i believe zen will fill this emptiness in the future.
so that i will find my head.

Good news!

i notice another thing is 13:00/13:30 am
is when my hungar begins.(for zazen)
so the best suitable time
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Jul.23.2018
06:18AM EDT 
vertical line 1. Nevermore posts messages on this forum for attention.  It could be zen, it could be football, hell it could be anything.  He is the definition of the post-interweb troll casting around for scent.  Anyone can see that.  Why else would he think there is an internet world awaiting with bated breath, updates on his latest fad:  the zazen diary entry. Rather Nevermore could address any concerns he has in respect of his zazen practice with so-teh, and not necessarily on this forum.

2. I'm here to talk to the Aeons, to trample on the authority of the Archons and to connect the synchros.  And the jokes.  And I don't giving a flying 'Fame is the noise of madmen', for anybody else's projected motives. 
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Jul.23.2018
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vertical line I mean, against my better judgement I read some of that and I, you know, I just don't really want to get involved with someone who is beginning to understand zazen mind and no head zen find his head ' in the hungry time behind his subconscious ... cos I'm a dumbašš, baby.
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Jul.23.2018
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Jul.23.2018
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Jul.23.2018
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vertical line There is time to speak football there is time to speak zazen.
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Jul.23.2018
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vertical line Not with me there ain't.
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Jul.23.2018
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vertical line with or without you.Give your decision.
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Jul.23.2018
10:36AM EDT 
vertical line Did you not get the memo?  I resigned.  The role.  In your movie.  I wouldn't be able to achieve the look without taking downers which isn't something I'd consider.
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Jul.23.2018
01:32PM EDT 
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vertical line I speak I listen.What a Zen Forum!
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Jul.23.2018
02:30PM EDT 
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vertical line O.K. ex: I'm asking to myself; Am i hungry for zazen?

And answering\ no, not (for) now
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Jul.23.2018
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vertical line Damn. I guess I'll see you around. I cannot even listen to this Enver person anymore. Ridiculous.
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Jul.24.2018
12:56AM EDT 
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vertical line I am the King of the ridiculousness.Don't you know that?
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Jul.24.2018
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vertical line Stop chasing me and speak zen!
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Jul.24.2018
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vertical line There are too many people around me that doesn't make five penny.
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Jul.26.2018
01:41PM EDT 
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Everyone is a reflection of yourself
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Jul.26.2018
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vertical line Nearly normal. Almost the full shilling.
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Jul.27.2018
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Sep.13.2018
08:06AM EDT 
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vertical line Manowar - Warriors of the World
https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=Dll329ggLIY
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Sep.13.2018
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Sep.13.2018
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vertical line Our bodies are so tiny we cannot feel 99% of things.

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Sep.13.2018
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Sep.14.2018
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vertical line “The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.”

~ HPL
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Sep.14.2018
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vertical line Hospital appointment earlier for a biopsy. Felt that. A sharp scratch.
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Sep.14.2018
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