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vertical line Posted on Nov.16.2018 @ 11:48PM EDT by Avisitor
Have you ever gotten into an argument with someone you didn't know.
Just something which happens due to circumstances

A customer in a supermarket was yelling and screaming.
I go over and I have to yell to get the lady to stop for a moment.
She wants her bottle of fish sauce wrapped in newspaper.
The cashier said that there is no paper available.
She points to newspaper for sale.
Asked by the cashier if she wants to pay for the newspaper, she screams some more about the customer being right.
I tell her that if she doesn't like it that she can go somewhere else.
Now, she is screaming that I told her to get out.

All this time, I can see myself like a third person .. aside myself
The stuff coming out my mouth is not regulated
It just flows in reaction to the irate customer.

She calls the police to complain that I was being rude to her.
And after a little while, I find myself being rude in response to her being rude.
So, what is going on?

Have I gotten to the point where I see my life as play with three acts til the end of my life?
This stuff is not new insight. It is just more stuff.
I think Ram Dass said more grist for the mill.
Just more stuff of life to be ground into nothing????

Any advice??
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Reply from Enver m.
Nov.20.2018
05:57PM EDT 
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vertical line Personally I couldn't be able to awake from my dreams.
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Reply from Enver m.
Nov.20.2018
06:18PM EDT 
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vertical line I know who I am; I'm a person who see himself fishing in his dream.
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Reply from Enver m.
Nov.20.2018
09:03PM EDT 
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vertical line Sorry for the repetition.For a better spelling;

"Personally I'm a one who couldn't be able to get rid of his dreams."

would be much better

thanks
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Reply from so_teh
Nov.25.2018
05:01PM EDT 
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vertical line I think it's nuts.

This is what we learn in meditation or Zazen.

We are emotional beings.

Our emotional states are always seething in the background of our beings.

We are volcanoes ready to erupt and overreact over small, small things.

In Zazen we realize that that state of being is unnecessary.

But anyone who hasn't had any experience of sitting doesn't know.

That newspaper was the most important thing in the world for that lady in that moment.

She was one conscious breath away from relaxation but chose disaster instead.

Third person watching I cannot help to see humor in events.

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Reply from Avisitor
Feb.20.2019
11:15PM EDT 
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vertical line There has also been another time where everything went into a quite place.
No thoughts, only intent. Was like being thrown out of position.
Things were getting done as needed. But, no thoughts.
It felt strange and I only wanted things to get back to normal.

Maybe enlightenment isn't in my cards??
Maybe next lifetime will be better???

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Reply from Avisitor
Feb.20.2019
11:34PM EDT 
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vertical line Yeah, I get caught up in another words about enlightenment.
It only serves to feed the wrong mind into searching for things that aren't the truth. Feeds the want for things instead of the truth.
Beware of those who preach their truth and not the words of seeking enlightenment.
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Reply from so_teh
Feb.24.2019
01:55PM EDT 
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vertical line Broadly speaking I haven't found a better use for the mind than meditation. Observing a distorted world (all the unique beings of the world) it's evident that meditation isn't the common use of the mind. A little encouragement toward meditation for others can make an impact in their lives. And you don't have to even reference "meditation" to make it a meditation for them. That's good enough enlightenment for me.
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Reply from Avisitor
Feb.26.2019
10:22PM EDT 
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vertical line Guess meditation is a tool for the mind
Some use to think that meditation would bring about enlightenment
Sort of polishing the roof tiles into mirrors.
You just can't turn this mind into an enlightened one
They aren't the same.

The person seeking enlightenment isn't the same one who experiences it
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Reply from so_teh
Mar.07.2019
02:38PM EDT 
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vertical line I'm not here to help people out of the cycle of birth and death. A bodhisattva will do that just fine. That's not my purpose.

I am out of it myself and contemplate those who still must return.

It's not my place to help other's to be free from the cycle.

I am simple. I don't mind doing ordinary work.

I don't seek to teach. If the occasion arises then I will help. But I'm not after it.

I'd rather live an ordinary, honest life.
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Reply from Enver m.
Mar.07.2019
03:54PM EDT 
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vertical line Come on so_teh, Please give me a teaching for me?
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Mar.12.2019
03:00PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "I'm not here to help people out of the cycle of birth and death. A bodhisattva will do that just fine. That's not my purpose.

I am out of it myself and contemplate those who still must return.

It's not my place to help other's to be free from the cycle.

I am simple. I don't mind doing ordinary work.

I don't seek to teach. If the occasion arises then I will help. But I'm not after it.

I'd rather live an ordinary, honest life.
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It is the responsibility of all enlightened beings to help those who are not so.
You go up the hill for yourself to see the view.
You come down to help others go up.
If you are truly enlightened then you would know this.
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Mar.12.2019
03:01PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "Come on so_teh, Please give me a teaching for me?"
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Would you ever listen and learn?
Or would your mind just turn and feel satisfied that it is better than others??
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Reply from Enver m.
Mar.13.2019
08:05AM EDT 
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vertical line Avisitor, go home and calm your mind!
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Reply from Avisitor
Mar.14.2019
06:40PM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "Avisitor, go home and calm your mind!"
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Everything was put in front of you.
And you still don't get it.

There is no lock and key relationship between Buddhism and Zen.
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