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→→→→ vertical line TOPIC: HUMANITY IS A SHARP PAIN IN MY ASS
vertical line Posted on Jan.11.2020 @ 01:47AM EDT by so_teh
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Reply from Bobwidget
Jan.12.2020
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vertical line Being standoffish against humanity of course they are a pain. But not being standoffish against humanity the pain is worth it.

There is nothing more important to me then humanity. I ask reality to help people regardless of any benefit to me. I desire humanities correction for their own sake.

Only reality is on par with humanity. Reality created us. Gave us this chance to live. Allowing us if we want to love life which is god and reality.

Just the ability to convey thoughts and written word with humanities vast intelligence is amazing and this ability reality has created in us.

There is simply a deep profound love of reality just for creating life and us.

So yes. Humanity is worth any effort.
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Reply from Phil Space
Jan.13.2020
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vertical line Who Can It Be Now?
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Jan.14.2020
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vertical line Mea Culpa
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Jan.17.2020
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vertical line Psst,,psst.....let your imaginary attention totally relax.
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Reply from Phil Space
Jan.18.2020
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vertical line Not worth any effort.  
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Jan.18.2020
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That's solely blamed on the standoffish attention.
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Reply from Phil Space
Jan.18.2020
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vertical line Why bother?  First it's 'no effort' now it's 'worth the effort'.  You're full of crap.
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Jan.18.2020
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vertical line Quote: "Why bother?  First it's 'no effort' now it's 'worth the effort'.  You're full of crap.
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Never said. Don't manipulate.

Only a weakling such as your self will not examine the attention and realize its imagined. Not my fault. Its yours. The physical body is aware of reality.

Your weak. Afraid to look and truly see reality. Your fault.
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Jan.18.2020
12:29PM EDT 
vertical line I'm an equal opportunities misanthrope.  But I hate you the most.
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Jan.18.2020
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vertical line Quote: "I'm an equal opportunities misanthrope.  But I hate you the most."
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Wrong. Your imagined attention does. To say the least I know what comprises the attention more then you. Most are reluctant and also aggressive being told they imagine an attention. But this is response of the ego. A programmed trait of the doctrine of attention.

If you truly looked at the attention and let your body be aware of reality you would not hate me but be thankful. Not toward me. But directed at god you call reality for this message he gave me.

Afraid to be the Atman which is the universal persona the attention/ego attaches to its idea of the self. That's why it's ego. The imagined idea of what ones self is.

So no you do not hate me. Only your attention does you created.
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Jan.18.2020
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vertical line A kundalini kick up the ass.  Thus I extract pure shinola.
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Jan.18.2020
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vertical line Quote: "A kundalini kick up the ass.  Thus I extract pure shinola.

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Your awareness knows better.
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Jan.20.2020
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vertical line Zenguide. Decent resource website. Horrible forum as of late.
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Nope. Your awareness knows better. Knows what reality says is true. You will learn. Or be left behind. You only have two choices. Accept awareness or the attention. The line is drawn in the sand. A clear distinction. You cannot serve two masters. You serve reality which is god and awareness or Satan which is the noosphere and attention.

Which do you choose?
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Jan.21.2020
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line I dunno why ur talking to them they're across the sea. If u don't serve a dog or bring crops then I put you down thru gunfire. I don't know what you mean left behind, i've been telling you to leave if it's not the former two.
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line it's better than the respiratory failure you inflicted on them so stop whining
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line you're on my property morons so you must have business, it's dog or crops
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line they don't have to serve anyone here they are across the sea it's their business
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line if you can't live off the land then you should leave my property
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line well i cant conjure hamburgers I said im dog i dont know who is god
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line if there is a god or satan then you follow the same rules or I put you down through gunfire
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line better that the respiratory failure that you inflicted on your family. and it's how i'd prefer to go
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line which 3 year old man child whined about guns. or is that god or satan. or is that your navy, you think a gun is worse than respiratory failure? if you want to try the latter go ahead
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line ok well u can get a stroke in your sleep but i dont want one, i just dont know how to aim the damned thing i dont think you know either
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line if you don't live off the land and I don't force you off then you'll starve try San Diego
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line gun is how everyone eats every day what is wrong with gun aside from not knowing how to aim one
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line What is left behind. I told everyone to leave like 20 years ago, I have already placed them above the law, and it's only because I am lazy with paperwork.
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line No I do hate everyone, because they inflict respiratory failure, then they whine about guns. And they cannot prescribe their own medication. Isn't that worse than Nazi, cos those used guns and they took cyanide and they prescribed their own medicine.
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line If they have a dog they can take refuge that's all I said now it's you will be left behind. Does it look like I'd miss anyone, a few only.
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line Look if I don't force you people out you will starve anyways you don't know how to survive. And if you can't do it then don't say that you can, now you've killed your family worse than Nazis.
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line Now what is wrong with a gun you haven't answered the damned question. I am polite enough to answer yours you don't answer mine.
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line They do not own the dog, the dog owns them they are of greater economic value. If they are owned by one of my dogs they can stay.
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line What don't I know or does he just make baseless accusations all day. I don't care if he suffers he does not add any value. OJ SImpsons suffers too so what, the moment they get my family killed they can go to death row.
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line Once they are not owned by one of my dogs I will force them off my properties, for their own good they don't know how to survive off the land, they do not bring anything of value.
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line My money is from the free market, your money are from taxes and subsidies. You are the state and I will execute every last one of you until you demonstrate your worth.
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line It's kinder than respiratory failure. And you might prefer it to starvation.
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line You cannot pay your bills that is the proof. Even if you taxed the corporations you would not break even if Chinese law were upheld.
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line Even in property damages you would end up in debt, let alone if you apply Mexican law.
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line It does not matter if you suffer. If it just costs everyone more then I am not obliged to give you anything.
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line Plenty of people suffer they dont tax everyone or get your family killed
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line Lmfao. What are they going to do sell San Jose a particle accelerator. Not very smart for Indians or USA are they.
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line I already got my gardens and bunker and grill stocked I can live forever off it if PG&E blows up. They're all going to raid Safeway at the same time it's gonna be hillarious, maybe they'll get HIV from eating eachother
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line all their families suicided i don't know that it just sounds like it, it's cause they're losers
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line Just make a crush film animals masters, not only Frank , Christie, my fam, and the whole company will buy it you will receive a billion from unknown sources. It is the new opioid.
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Jan.21.2020
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vertical line So, what's wrong with the shoot word. It's not a bad way to go if you aim it right and it's how you get fed. Some places aren't so lucky. Like your backyard.
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Jan.22.2020
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vertical line An animal focuses nervous system energy to create an attention and is natural. A human being taught emulates an attention by creating nervous energy and focusing it. Which is unnatural.

We are not animals nor belong to the animal kingdom. We are meant to be aware. It also is not aware and having an attention. As forcing the attention we can never fully relax.

The physical body totally relaxing and being aware is our natural state of being.

A desire to keep the attention is only ego and not a true understanding of its nature. Imagined that somehow being focused is better then being aware. Those that have never experienced kensho and a glimpse of the aware Buddha body do not know.
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Jan.22.2020
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Jan.22.2020
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Not about me. Its what is true in reality.

What's wrong with being aware?
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Jan.22.2020
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Jan.23.2020
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Jan.24.2020
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vertical line Posting songs helps a itty little bit in its own way.

Better if you have self realization and see the physical body that is aware of reality without effort is you. Instead of ignoring realities message I bluntly tell.

Maybe and when you discover this you'll thank reality and his message of salvation.

Not about me. But it is about people.
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Jan.24.2020
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vertical line Quote: "Posting songs helps me a itty little bit in its own way.

Better if I stop making assumptions. Instead of.

Maybe.

It's about me. People.
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vertical line Quote: "Quote: "Posting songs helps me a itty little bit in its own way.

Better if I stop making assumptions. Instead of.

Maybe.

It's about me. People.
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Itty bitty mind imagining. Your good at the small tiny stuff. Well not really.

You'll learn. Not a question if but when.
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Jan.24.2020
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vertical line You're not even good at the itty bitty stuff let alone anything else.

I'll learn but will anyone else, if not what will happen to them.

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It's about me. People.
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Itty bitty mind imagining. Your good at the small tiny stuff. Well not really.

You'll learn. Not a question if but when.
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Walter Mitty.  My good.  Will not at all.
I can't teach.  No question.
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Jan.26.2020
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vertical line The funny thing is Bob isn't aware of how wrong he is. I don't know what you call that. But many people are like that.
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Jan.26.2020
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vertical line Quote: "The funny thing is Bob isn't aware of how wrong he is. I don't know what you call that. But many people are like that."
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No. God said. The body is aware. Its not me being wrong or correct. God is correct. To say the body is aware is wrong is saying reality is wrong.

So is god wrong?
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vertical line When you hear a bird sing you cannot ignore it and not hear it and you hear it regardless if you pay attention to it or not.

Your body is aware of the bird singing regardless if you want to hear it or not. It is simply the physical spirit hears the bird singing.

There is no choice. You have no choice. This is a fact of reality that made us this way.

This easy and non struggling way.

Tell me god is wrong.

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Feb.01.2020
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vertical line What you say Bob is fine. This is where you are from your level of understanding. We all have our own place in awareness, up or down.

To me, it has seemed... Even ten years ago but in the past even further. Humanity had more of a Spirit. Had more of a Joy in living. Humanity had something bright and clear.

To me, it seems as though humanity is smearing themselves. Because I am human, I must feel something like everyone.

I feel a little upset about this...

Life feels like everything and nothing to me.

People, humanity... They seem a little unsure of themselves these days.

I think that's what I feel. And it's a tough intuition.

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vertical line Quote: "What you say Bob is fine. This is where you are from your level of understanding. We all have our own place in awareness, up or down.

To me, it has seemed... Even ten years ago but in the past even further. Humanity had more of a Spirit. Had more of a Joy in living. Humanity had something bright and clear.

To me, it seems as though humanity is smearing themselves. Because I am human, I must feel something like everyone.

I feel a little upset about this...

Life feels like everything and nothing to me.

People, humanity... They seem a little unsure of themselves these days.

I think that's what I feel. And it's a tough intuition.

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There is no level in being aware. This insecurity is the attention desiring security. Only it needs it. The physical being does not. Yes of course insecurity makes life little.

My message is simple.

Physical body that is aware of reality don't focus nervous energy and let it totally relax for relief.

Don't focus energy then total relaxation can occur.
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vertical line Okay.  I'll tell you. Reality didn't make me this way.  I make reality.  So that makes you wrong.  And by extension, makes your god also wrong.  I suspect a violent reaction will now issue forth from you which may or may not include pissing on me [again] or some further aggressive rape fantasy rant due to your becoming exposed to a world you are not accustomed to.
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vertical line Quote: "Okay.  I'll tell you. Reality didn't make me this way.  I make reality.  So that makes you wrong.  And by extension, makes your god also wrong.  I suspect a violent reaction will now issue forth from you which may or may not include pissing on me [again] or some further aggressive rape fantasy rant due to your becoming exposed to a world you are not accustomed to.
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No you made a reality in your head.

You make birds and trees?

Just saying you make reality puts you not me a lot further from it. I'm done replying to you. Your quite mental and not forth posting to.

You make birds and trees. That's special thinking.
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vertical line Mental illness is fairly defined by believing what is imagined in the head is true in reality. Which is delusion in zen. Delusions don't need a specific mental illness label.

Mental illness/delusion can be overcome quite simply by being aware of your thoughts. Not focused on them.

People define themselves by transitory thoughts. As a security and a focus. Such as I believe in this or that. But belief is shallow compared to accepting what is regardless of desire or belief. A departure from the norm that grounds one more fully with a reality not theirs. A stability.

Nobody makes reality. Reality is reality.
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Feb.03.2020
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vertical line Yeah, I make it all. And you debase humanity in your own person. You are in no position to determine what is real for anyone but yourself. So stop trying to bend others to your version of reality. What this means is that you'll have to nail yourself to humanity's cross.
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vertical line Quote: "Yeah, I make it all. And you debase humanity in your own person. You are in no position to determine what is real for anyone but yourself. So stop trying to bend others to your version of reality. What this means is that you'll have to nail yourself to humanity's cross. "
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There is no version of reality. Just reality.

You don't make it all.

Do you make trees and grass? No.

Don't be deluded.
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Feb.04.2020
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vertical line You need to lighten up.  Let it go.  Put into practice your mantra 'RELAX'.  Realise you have made yourself into a literal uptight, toxic boor.  What a shame.
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Your issue is that. Posting songs instead of helping humanity. False relaxation is not the same as letting the physical body totally relax. Which is non trying.

A message from reality is more important then posting songs.
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vertical line At night before going to sleep you let your attention totally relax so you can fall asleep. Nightly the attention ceases to exist. In the morning upon awakening you recreate it.

But this is unneeded. The physical body automatically is aware of reality without any effort.

Only the ego which is the imagined idea of oneself is reluctant to see the attention is not ones self. Its created.

Physical body that is aware of reality let the attention totally relax and dissolve for relief.

To die is to live again.

To not agree with me is not to see this. Also not agreeing with me means realities message is false and not agree with god.

The body is aware. The attention is the false god.

The ego unwillingly to see this resists. So you either know or don't. If you knew then you would agree 100 percent.

The body is the Buddha body and you.
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Feb.04.2020
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vertical line Insomniacs over identity with the attention. Unable to let it totally relax so they can sleep. Fear of not letting themselves drift off in fear of losing the attention.

To let your self die so you can live again means letting the attention totally relax and being naturally aware with the body. A clarification of which I was supposed to return and elaborate on.

Knowing at the heart mankind's prime issue makes me the what? Gods herald to heal mankind with realities message.

No? How come I know then.
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Feb.04.2020
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Waking up is opening your eyes after being asleep.

Wake up to what?

To a reality that is not mine that it don't matter if I accept or don't?

You do not know. Hence cannot speak it blunt. The failing of zen to be obtuse.

Speak it blunt if you can. I can.
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Feb.05.2020
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Feb.05.2020
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Feb.05.2020
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Feb.06.2020
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Feb.08.2020
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vertical line The attention is objective. It objectively finds information to subjectively know it.

The body is subjective but it has five senses making it objective as well.

The attention is the little objective and the body the big objective.
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Feb.09.2020
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vertical line Ah ok, another one of your realities.  Listen, your objectification of our bodies isn't helping humanity, driven as it is by your lust, your desire, your need for a kind of despotic control.  So, do humanity a favour - work out your own salvation.  And leave humanity alone.
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Feb.09.2020
12:40PM EDT 
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vertical line An analogy for the attention to grasp. Not true in reality. Objectifying people is incorrect.

Physical body let focused energy totally relax for relief.
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Feb.11.2020
11:51PM EDT 
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vertical line The specie, Homo Sapiens (mankind) has two natures. one inherited with his physical body, with its animal instincts ie: competition with his peers to achieve top dog status, anger and or violence to enforce his way, physical survival instinct. ( nature is a positive singularity. the negative is absent, life simply longs to live).
With his consciousness comes a humane instinct, (love compassion, kindness ect...) it has no atomic structure therefore metaphysical".
His social, formal and media education in his youth motivates his animalistic nature for success in his life and only pays lip service to his humane nature, with that he is led to believe that he is already a human being, so he lives his life playing his perceived role as a human, but a role is an act and an act is not real so any fulfilment in life is fleeting.
For man to evolve into humanity he needs to abandon his animal instincts. Respecting his physical needs for food and sleep, no longer in pursuit of wealth, fame, power or the applause of the fools that would judge him, he may naturally and spontaneously evolve into a humane being.
The temporary physical reality becomes a bit of a giggle.
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Feb.12.2020
06:26AM EDT 
vertical line The cosmic giggle vibrates at a high frequency.
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Feb.12.2020
07:03AM EDT 
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Feb.12.2020
07:14AM EDT 
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vertical line Dont know, about 6000 hzts. then again could be tititus.

Only about one in a million evolve into a humane being, and they claim the journey is of no account.
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Feb.12.2020
09:41AM EDT 
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vertical line Quote: "The specie, Homo Sapiens (mankind) has two natures. one inherited with his physical body, with its animal instincts ie: competition with his peers to achieve top dog status, anger and or violence to enforce his way, physical survival instinct. ( nature is a positive singularity. the negative is absent, life simply longs to live).
With his consciousness comes a humane instinct, (love compassion, kindness ect...) it has no atomic structure therefore metaphysical".
His social, formal and media education in his youth motivates his animalistic nature for success in his life and only pays lip service to his humane nature, with that he is led to believe that he is already a human being, so he lives his life playing his perceived role as a human, but a role is an act and an act is not real so any fulfilment in life is fleeting.
For man to evolve into humanity he needs to abandon his animal instincts. Respecting his physical needs for food and sleep, no longer in pursuit of wealth, fame, power or the applause of the fools that would judge him, he may naturally and spontaneously evolve into a humane being.
The temporary physical reality becomes a bit of a giggle.
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You don't know.

This physical being is aware of reality. Its presence automatically exists and there is no need to try.

All humanity is the Buddha body. The physical being that accepts the truth of reality as is regardless of desire.

Not all is correct in zen. Most is wrong.

Only the insecure attention or the over confident attention stands in the way. Once let to dissolve the issues we have self correct.

Animal is attention and human is aware.

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Feb.12.2020
09:54AM EDT 
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Feb.12.2020
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A rock. Get it right. Stuck in the gears of the mechanism causes it to falter.

I'm not wishy washy like you.
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Feb.12.2020
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Feb.13.2020
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vertical line Not all is correct in zen. Most is wrong./////

where right and wrong cannot exist,
where does correct find a home?
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Feb.13.2020
07:48AM EDT 
vertical line Used correctly, RightSoap is a cultural chauvinism containing perfume of Dharma-Cop and a lather of overwhelming froth - RightSoap will correct and interrogate all Zenguidians with the goal of cleansing and setting right, any seeming mistakes in the theory of theory. So, if you have any shopping to do, or you have familial obligations you are required to observe, maybe there is an aunt you should visit, or perhaps you need to tag and bury your dead, now is the time to do it - it hasn't manured in an age.


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Feb.13.2020
11:16AM EDT 
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where right and wrong cannot exist,
where does correct find a home?
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Another incorrect zen saying.

What is based on the imagined attention is not true to reality. That which is based on awareness of direct reality is correct.

The master is like a mirror reflecting what is.
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Feb.13.2020
11:24AM EDT 
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where right and wrong cannot exist,
where does correct find a home?
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Plus trying to find wrong with what is correct is saying something's wrong with being correct. Its wrong to be correct?
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Feb.14.2020
03:56AM EDT 
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vertical line Measures such as right & wrong, correct -incorrect, ..etc; are simply concepts, in a virtual dualistic reality fabricated in the mind of mankind.
The realization of one's true nature, transcends the limits of conventual dualistic thinking within the parameters of reason/logic.
What is the incorrectness in the teaching of who have guided so many in the success of their individual journey, and what flawless database did you use measure the teachings as 'incorrect'
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Feb.14.2020
04:27AM EDT 
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vertical line In the absence of conflict none go seeking heaven
Within the positive singularity of creation the negative only exists in the concepts of mankind's virtual fantasy he deems to be reality
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Feb.14.2020
06:45AM EDT 
vertical line Binary 101

BW's G.O.D. is a binary, fractal, self-replicating algorithm. His Reality is thus a genetic matrix of the existential tension of opposites embedded within the algorithm - the operating system

This binary operating system runs on the power of 'either/or' - some people like to call it the 'ego'. It makes sense of the world by division - subject/object, up/down, inside/outside, right/wrong, correct/incorrect, like/dislike, ad infinitum, ad nauseam.

For every stimulus, it responds yes or no - the Binary Track.

A sense of identity is thus generated by this operating system via impressions.


**Thank You For Travelling**
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Feb.14.2020
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Feb.14.2020
10:54AM EDT 
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vertical line In a world that is very wrong everything is OK? Then say I'm incorrect because I witness right and wrong?

Deluded viewpoints. Like all viewpoints of the imagined attention.

Its easy to spot all writings based on the attention which is incorrect.
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Feb.15.2020
05:28AM EDT 
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vertical line one has a choice
evolve into a humane being
or be true to the physical nature of ones animal instincts

though when the animal body expires what moves on to the next dimention
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Feb.15.2020
06:13AM EDT 
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Ok, here we go - so how are we going to work out if there's a heaven? Well you could just say that a + x + bx2 = 0 and leave it there or you could measure it on the 24-dimensional Leech lattice - this can be expressed using Buffon's Needle as:
H/175,000,000 + 1,000,000/5,000,000 + 10,000/650,000 + 100/19,000 + 100/12,000 + 7/700 + 7,360 which is to say wow what a bargain.

Now let's get on with some of the more straightforward problems like: are there gods? If you're using the standard p>0.5, then the answer is obviously yes. But don't take my word for it. Look at the probabilities. As you know from the Boylais's postulate, every straight line is a curve and every curve is a straight line and if you add everything up [75% x 1,000 + 24% x {-200) = 750 - 50 = 700] there's more likely to be an alien god above gods than not, especially if you employ Pascal's Wager. Look at the sequence: GGGGGG and GRRRRR - one looks more uniform, the other more random. Except they both have the same probability of arising. Weird? Uncanny? No not really - neither sequence was random because I wrote them both down.
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Feb.15.2020
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Feb.15.2020
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POW!
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Feb.15.2020
01:09PM EDT 
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or be true to the physical nature of ones animal instincts

though when the animal body expires what moves on to the next dimention
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Evolve? This holy life is meant to be lived not become.

Very unzen your expression. Animals have an attention. We are meant to be aware and are. This physical being is automatically aware of reality.

Only the attention is animal.

What moves on to the next dimension? There is no other dimension. There is this reality.

Unable to see the process of life around you which is composed becoming decomposed becoming formless energy is the issue here. Also composed and decomposed is zen.

So again no zen on your part.

Mankind's root cause of suffering all comes back to focused energy. Stress, anxiety, insecurity. The attention over focused becoming a headache. Unable to sleep for fear of letting the attention relax.
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Feb.15.2020
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Feb.16.2020
05:29AM EDT 
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vertical line Your expression "attention" seems to be just consciousness in the absence or thought.
Is that what you are alluding to?
If so, then isn't imagined attention the measure of correct-incorrect, what is Zen and what isn't Zen.
The old men Zen pointed their students to have no opinions, to see all as 'it is' without judgement.
Even Christ pointed his followers 'to judge not' as a guide to the realization of their true nature.
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Feb.16.2020
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Another shnorrer is waiting to inherit my bed of straw."

? Isaac Bashevis Singer, Gimpel the Fool

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Feb.16.2020
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