zenguide.com random_koan - zen buddhism principles, practice, discussion forum, books and directory http://zenguide.com/ random_koan syndicated from zenguide.com en-us Copyright - forever - zenguide.com Sat, 19 Aug 2017 08:04:26 EDT zenguide.com http://zenguide.com/images/zen_guide_dot_com_logo_small.gif http://zenguide.com Rebirth by the Buddha "But," asked Vaccha persistently, "when one who has this emancipation of mind<br> (freed from self) dies, where does he go, where is he reborn?<br> The Buddha replied:<br> "The word 'reborn' does not fit the case."<br> "Then he is not reborn?"<br> "To say that he is not reborn does not fit the case either. Nor should you say that<br> he is both reborn and not reborn or, indeed, that he is neither reborn nor not reborn."<br> "I am totally bewildered, Buddha, and my faith in you has gone."<br> "Never mind being bewildered. This is a deep and difficult doctrine to understand.<br> Imagine there is a fire in front of you. You see it burning and know that it can<br> only burn if it has fuel. And then you see that it has gone out. Now, somebody asks<br> you, to which quarter has the fire gone - east, west, north, or south? What would you say?<br> "I would say that such as question does not fit the case, Buddha. For the fire depends on<br> fuel, and when there is no more fuel, the fire to be said to be out through lack<br> of nourishment."<br> "In just the same way, Vaccha, the body in which one can see the truth will die out, like a <br> fan palm, without any future. But that which is the truth, that which is existence itself,<br> is there although it is deep and infinitely hard to understand. Like the great ocean, <br> one cannot fathom it. And so it does not fit the case to say that I will be reborn will<br> not be reborn."<br> From Digha Nikaya of the Buddha<br> Edited by Anne Bancroft http://zenguide.com/zenmedia/index.cfm?id=393 Sat, 19 Aug 2017 08:04:26 EDT