P'ang Yun (740-808) was a well known Chinese Zen Layman.
He was once selling bamboo baskets. Coming down off the a bridge, he stumbled and fell.
When Ling-chao saw this she ran to her father's side and threw herself down.
THE SUN IS NEVER REAL
CT: Someone [not CT] once said: "The sun is never real!"
What would think about that statement?
Visitor: Our perception of the world is clouded by, firstly, the habitual responses that we are taught by society and secondly, by the habit forming creation of our own selves or ego's.
In everyday life and through societal education, we develop ideas about reality and possibilities that our peers verify. We accept these "laws" as immutable on the basis of their habitual occurrence and certification by society. For example, scientific authorities state that there is a law of gravity and that time is linear and proceeds form one second to the next.
These "truths" are supported and bolstered by schools, society and our peers until they become unquestionable fact. This also applies to our ideas of human personality and of ourselves.
Change then becomes an almost impossible task within the framework of conventional society.
The purpose of the statement is to upset or dislocate the mind from these habitual ideas of reality and open the mind to the other possibilities.
CT: You made a good point here. What are other possibilities? Could you tell?
Visitor: The sun we see is the vision of what the sun looked like 9 minutes ago (the time it takes for the light of the sun to get to earth.) We see only what was, not that which is.
CT: So, we just see the past, not the present?
Visitor: It is a danger but not a certainty for I do not know what DOM sees. More to the point one truly does not see the sun, only what the sun was. So is the sun real? Is the sun never real. It is to Steve because future, past and present are in the same place.
CT: Right now, the d.o.m. sees the morning sunbeams shining through the window and feels the warmth through out!
CT & Visitor 11/10/03
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