When Yang-shan Hui-chi (807-883), as a young monk, paid a visit to the Ch'an master Hsing-k'ung, there was a monk who asked Hsing-k'ung:
-What is the meaning of the Patriarch's coming from the West?
WHAT IS THE OTHER HALF-WORD?
the d.o.m.: For a while ago, when the d.o.m. read the post quoted from Mr ChonTri, the d.o.m. happened to see something.
What Mr ChonTri said at that moment was just a half-word. What is the other half-word that he did not say to complete the word? Anyone knows?
Master Zen: nope
Woodsman: I am thinking prostate, or pro state, a promotional statement!? Is that it!? If it is want my award in singles please, and no talkie chit-chat please/thanks.
shayne: no word.
shayne: drat. haha.
Woodsman: oinkle that is the combination of an oink and a wink
Woodsman: was this one of those write or wrong questions?
shayne: no.........what is the opposite of word? but no words. but both are the whole. this dissection of reality is not needed. but it keeps i's manifest. it points. good. is this dissection good or bad? both.
Woodsman: woink - a wanna be oink what's with the pig thing tonight?
shayne: nothing wrong with a good oinking. lol.
DeZachster: Perhaps he did not say the non-words that accompanied his words. Granted, this would be difficult, as you cannot say non-words or non-sounds. You can only say sounds and words... although you can experience them (non-words). So how to express something that cannot be spoken? By not-speaking.
This is my answer because it is what I imagine Mr. Chon Tri doing when he speaks his half words and experiences the other non-half. Perhaps the d.o.m noticed something different?
Lionel: If DOM & Chontri same person, then to be said had been said.
Woodsman: so what? half is the question
shayne: and that's good too.
the d.o.m.: From Woodsman I am thinking prostate, or pro state, a promotional statement!? Is that it!? If it is want my award in singles please, and no talkie chit-chat please/thanks.
Mr Woodsman, It will neither be a pro-state or promotional statement nor talkative or chit-chat at all as you think. The d.o.m. found the other half-word that Mr ChonTri
"Great Men & Women of Zen,
If you want to keep your mind clear and pure, Do not misuse it at any moment in anything. Do not let yourself deceived by the activities of your self at any moment in anything. No one could help you if you let yourself misuse your mind or deceived by the activities of your self.
Take care & so long.
The d.o.m. also sees that the first half-word Mr ChonTri said to the ones who get hurt, the second one he said to the ones who hurt the others.
And if the d.o.m. were in Mr ChonTri's situation and should say something at the moments, he would do it differently.
Lionel: Suppose Chontri had completed what is needed to be done or what must be done had been done, meanwhile the so called Dom wakes up like me & or no better than you me & him on earth... but perhaps for a while ago... or perhaps for a little while ago... or perhaps for a moment, then it is shake-off cleanly, then Mr dom quickly went back to the HILL to do his usual daily business. It is seen as such. DOM thus comes thus goes BUT at the same time, no come no go! Haha! Reminding the HILL is alive with the sound of music's movie!
Woodsman: The point is not to do it the same as in the first half.
Lionel: FROM DOM:- And if the d.o.m. were in Mr ChonTri's situation and should say something at the moments, he would do it differently. Mr DOM, if you were in his shoe, what & why would you do it differently this time then? Isn't it the samething again. How would it possibly be something? Thank you, SIR!
You got a point there Mr Woodmans. Thank you. Perhaps it can never be the same moment or point cos it is changing forever! Every moment arising is afresh! Am hungry now, the kitchen is there.
the d.o.m.: Mr Woodsman & Mr Lionel, The d.o.m. has no point and does not put his foot in someone else's shoe - even Mr ChonTri's - as you thought. Therefore, the d.o.m. wouldn't do any thing same or different in the sense of what you have said above.
If either of you want any "point" proved, just go and see Mr Shayne.
Doreen: Perhaps a word is half because the speaker uses a word to symbolize a thought or a feeling - but how the listener perceives the word is unique to their own experiences and their own symbols. One word - two meanings. But the word can still connect them.
Woodsman: Beginnings, middles, ends in a circled fashion.
Doreen: Yes! And many of my words sound like they were uttered by one who just stepped off the spinning wheel...sometimes dizzy...sometimes on point :-) But maybe the words were right a moment before or in a moment to come....maybe never? LOL!
Lynn: I don't know but it would seem to me that things have a way of coming through twice like, nah, probably just delusional.
Doreen Deja vu all over again! :-)
Zorbas: Yes, I know that word! but if I speak.... Nothing is said.
the d.o.m. & Visitors 11/24/2004
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