When Yang-shan Hui-chi (807-883), as a young monk, paid a visit to the Ch'an master Hsing-k'ung, there was a monk who asked Hsing-k'ung:
-What is the meaning of the Patriarch's coming from the West?
A QUESTION ABOUT EXISTENCE & NON-EXISTENCE
the d.o.m.: Suppose there is a man who looks at the empty space right in front of him. He observes, contemplates about it for a while then says: -The empty space exists, or -The empty space does not exist.
So, does the empty space exist or not exist?
In case, he refutes the non-existence of the empty space by saying: "Here is the empty space evidently!"
Does his refutation make the empty space from non-existence to existence?
In case, he refutes the existence of the empty space by saying: "There is no such a thing called the empty space."
Does his refutation make the empty space from existence to non-existence?
Woodsman: you still have to wash the clothes, is nothing, if it is just yours ya do.
Woodsman: and what the water won't get out, the wind will behind the canvas, there is nothing to grasp
the d.o.m.: Oh! Mr Woodsman is that smarty man. He knows what he will do and tell it clearly.
The wind will until it will. Right? Under Mr Woodsman's canvas, there is something to grasp.
ONE: A man who look at the empty space have no reason to say or do anything else.
6-10 Chars: From TUI HEX: A man who look at the empty space have no reason to say or do anything else.
Woodsman: Well, at the time I was looking, I wasn't doin' anything, cousins.
Woodsman: Ah, and at the time, I couldn't put it into words. Hail typing!
Woodsman: And dommy, keep your hands off my canvas, Sir!
Woodsman: Oh, be quiet...
Woodsman: Today, before light, the moon followed me all the way home, and was perfectly lined-up with the peace sign shining on the garage, all lit up on the drive in. ooooowwweee.!! pretty much.
Woodsman: Stick that in your tobacco tin.
Master Zen: It doesn't matter what the man says, the facts "are".
stephen: “The wind blew and the shit flew but you only here for a day or two” One should not decide what is in the space in front of them. To define it would limit it. MU
Number9: I had some empty-space in a box, but I lifted the lid to see if it was still there and it must have gotten out because there was even more stuff in there than before.
Lionel: ...still a bubble-thought or bubble-thoughts... once is known it is not anymore...
Zorbas: This man can make anything he like out of empty space. Or can push a side full space if he pleases. So how was your Holidays?
poor monk: Looking at empty space this man is playing games when he should be deadly serious. Hit him with the stick, bring him back to his senses.
Zorbas: This man has had many sticks! He is just setting a trap! I have fallen into many in the past. But not any longer, because I see him as self.
dragoss: someone might see atoms in the space or < as visable > gas or solid.
justin: Hi all, i am happily writing from my holiday: Where did the stuff go which was in the space (for the space to have been emptied) is there a place seperate to here? I mean wouldn't the very idea of emptyness be just un-knowledge of what is in the space, un-perception. My eyes can not see infra-red, does that mean it is not there?
the d.o.m. & visitors 12/25/2004
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