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  A student asked:
-For all the different people who have come to listen to your words, please
tell us about the way you have found and know.
The Buddha answered:
-When you take things it is because of a thirst, a clinging... continue...

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THAT WHICH SPEAKS...
the d.o.m.:

When that which speaks is mind or self or ego or you...
So, when that which does not speak it is not mind or self or ego or you... Right?
If so, what is it when that which does not speak? Does it exist or not?

When that which asks is mind or self or ego or you...
So, when that which does not ask is not mind or self or ego or you... Right?
If so, what is it when that which does not speak? Does it exist or not?

When that which lives is mind or self or ego or you...
So, when that which dies is not mind or self or ego or you... Right?
If so, what is it when that which dies? Does it exist or not? Where is it?

shayne:
ummmmmm....ahhhhhhh.
no clue d.o.m.

emptiness always exists.
nothingness always exists.

Lynnoh:
I would answer, but i'm not asking

shayne:
nothiningness seeks. if it doesnt seek its just nothingness not seeking.
or
attention still exists but it doesnt go to form. or chase after it. or ask. or question. it just sees.

DARKMATTER:
That is a mountain of questions, so it is.

1500free:
"When that which speaks is". The voice box or not the voice box?

the d.o.m.:
From DARKMATTER
That is a mountain of questions, so it is.

Mr. Darkmatter,
Would you want an answer?

the d.o.m.: From 1500free
"When that which speaks is". The voice box or not the voice box?

It's Mr 1500free's voice boxed.

DARKMATTER:
Are you asking? Do ya love me?

the d.o.m.:
From DARKMATTER
Are you asking? Do ya love me?

Mr Darkmatter,
No. If you'd want an answer, find it yourself.

the d.o.m.:
From Lynnoh
I would answer, but i'm not asking.

Ms. Lynn,
The d.o.m. can see you're not aking, but what would your answer be?

1500free:
Miss 1500free Please.

DARKMATTER:
"No" you aren't asking, or "No" ya don't love me? If it aint me ya love, then who, pray, is it?

ONE:
I think shayne needs some support this time.
Here we go - existence is a state of mind.
:-)

TheHermit:
In the past, with my head full of horns, I used to think alone about mind and no mind.
Later, I put a horn store, trying to sell horns, teaching others about mind and no mind.
Now, I closed the store…

I don’t know if I have a mind.
I don’t know if I have a no mind.
I don’t know how many horns I have.
I don’t know which is the mother of sutras.
I don’t know if it is a good or a bad day.
I don’t know if It exists or where is It.

I recommend to someone that came and ask something:
to hear the wind whistling between the hermitage’s trees. Very quiet…

Greetings

DARKMATTER:
Okay, you are on your mountain of questions. Do you want to know the answers?

TheHermit:
"Okay, you are on your mountain of questions"

From here, I only see a mountain. I don't see any question

"Do you want to know the answers?"

Can you hear the wind whistling between the hermitage’s trees?
Very quiet…

the d.o.m.:
From DARKMATTER
"No" you aren't asking, or "No" ya don't love me? If it aint me ya love, then who, pray, is it?

Mr. Darkmatter,
Feel free to be here day-n-night to ask that kind of questions until the answer you want comes to you.

the d.o.m.:
From DARKMATTER
Okay, you are on your mountain of questions. Do you want to know the answers?

Mr. Darkmatter,
Originally, the questions above were not intentionally raised to you. However, if you are interested in answering them, just go head.

And one thing to mention here: to the d.o.m., the answer is usually there before the moment the question is raised. In other words, the answer is already in the question. So, you see if the d.o.m. wants to know your answers or not.

the d.o.m.:
From TheHermit
In the past, with my head full of horns, I used to think alone about mind and no mind.
Later, I put a horn store, trying to sell horns, teaching others about mind and no mind.
Now, I closed the store…

I don’t know if I have a mind.
I don’t know if I have a no mind.
I don’t know how many horns I have.
I don’t know which is the mother of sutras.
I don’t know if it is a good or a bad day.
I don’t know if It exists or where is It.

I recommend to someone that came and ask something:
to hear the wind whistling between the hermitage’s trees.
Very quiet…

Greetings

Hello Mr. Hermit,
Maybe your hermitage was quiet until the moment you came here.
Now you are here and you sound no more quiet. Right?

DARKMATTER:
"intentionally raised to"? Hush mah mouth, but what was the intent?

DARKMATTER:
The tune ah hear is neither the wind nor the trees whistling.

the d.o.m.:
Mr Darkmatter,
Feel free to be here day-n-night to ask any question like the one you do here until the answer comes to you.

TheHermit
"Hello Mr. Hermit, Maybe your hermitage was quiet until the moment you came here. Now you are here and you sound no more quiet. Right?"

No.Like the wind that comes and goes, I come here, very quiet, to greet some men and women walking together, and I go afterwards, very quiet again, to my hermitage moving only a little dust of your world that will drop again where it was...because I haven`t taking nothing.

the d.o.m.:
Mr. Hermit,
The d.o.m. has never thought that anyone who came to this place could take anything away from it at all. Because, if something which really belongs to it, nobody can take it away. And if something which really does not belong to it, nobody can take it away either. So, do not worry too much about anything. Just take your time to come and go as you like.

TheHermit:
wind comes and goes without feeling free or captive
without taking or leaving nothing
but it moves things...

Master Zen:
the body is your puppet
it is the body that does things, and then dies
with or without a body, you still are

shayne:
sounds too complicated for me......mz.
haha.

DARKMATTER:
Wind is neither free nor captive. And the wind always leaves a something behind and the wind always takes a something away.

DARKMATTER It rained down hard upon mah head and washed me all away!

ONE:
Greetings Hermit

the d.o.m.:
From TheHermit
wind comes and goes without feeling free or captive
without taking or leaving nothing
but it moves things...

Mr Hermit,
The wind which already moved does not moves.
The wind which has not yet moved does not moves.
Apart from the wind which already moved & has not yet moved,
No other wind which is moving.

So, where does one see which one moves?

TheHermit:
"Wind is neither free nor captive. And the wind always leaves a something behind and the wind always takes a something away."

Mind and no Mind always leaves a something behind and always takes a something away.
The wind comes and goes...

Lynnoh:
d.o.m. i don't mean to be rude and thus i am responding, the rest is ... interesting?

Is that so, Ms. Lynn? Enjoy yourself in responding that way.

TheHermit
The wind which already moved does not moves.
The wind which has not yet moved does not moves.
Apart from the wind which already moved & has not yet moved,
No other wind which is moving.

So, where does one see which one moves?

The Hertmit:
If all is quiet, who is interested seeing which one moves?

» Delete this message » Post Reply » Email this user » View this user's other postings » Ignore this user's postings 30121 From the d.o.m. Apr.07.2005 08:00 PM EDT From TheHermit If all is quiet, who is interested seeing which one moves?

Mr Hertmit, So, you got wait until all is quiet, then ask your question above.

» Delete this message » Post Reply » Email this user » View this user's other postings » Ignore this user's postings 30125 From Lynnoh Apr.07.2005 08:57 PM EDT okay, i'll scream now !!! Ah!

» Delete this message » Post Reply » Email this user » View this user's other postings » Ignore this user's postings 30128 From the d.o.m. Apr.07.2005 10:06 PM EDT From Lynnoh okay, i'll scream now !!! Ah!

Keep going on like that as long as you like.

» Delete this message » Post Reply » Email this user » View this user's other postings » Ignore this user's postings 30129 From 1500free Apr.07.2005 10:33 PM EDT And I thought the Buddha was the enlightened one. Wrong again.

» Delete this message » Post Reply » Email this user » View this user's other postings » Ignore this user's postings 30131 From shayne Apr.07.2005 11:32 PM EDT more then one. levels to everything. levels of understanding.

» Delete this message » Post Reply » Email this user » View this user's other postings » Ignore this user's postings 30142 From TheHermit Apr.08.2005 05:01 AM EDT "Mr Hertmit, So, you got wait until all is quiet, then ask your question above."

OK !! .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .................Not myself...

» Delete this message » Post Reply » Email this user » View this user's other postings » Ignore this user's postings 30164 From shayne Apr.08.2005 06:22 AM EDT that which speaks and that which words come from is just part of the whole of reality of which we cannot escape. reality does not elude us. we elude it by chasing after it. this mind chases and chases to no evail...to no end. when exhaused it can do no more but sit. and in the sitting...and in the resting the energy is renewed. more then mere doctrine. more then mere words. listen to the heart. the heart and mind and breath and words and thoughts. all at once. hush. be still. for your own mind is the enemy. and it is that which moves within. to become the enlightened one must through off the shackles of the animal mind. from beast to man to god. search and see for yourself. please.

» Delete this message » Post Reply » Email this user » View this user's other postings » Ignore this user's postings 30170 From DARKMATTER Apr.08.2005 08:05 AM EDT Dear heart, whence and whither the wind?

» Delete this message » Post Reply » Email this user » View this user's other postings » Ignore this user's postings 30180 From the d.o.m. Apr.08.2005 09:48 AM EDT From TheHermit OK !! .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .................Not myself...

Mr. Hermit, Who else?

» Delete this message » Post Reply » Email this user » View this user's other postings » Ignore this user's postings 30192 From shayne Apr.08.2005 11:00 AM EDT wind blows. we can feel its direction if we want. but blow it does. on the back of the neck. see it whip the trees. but it does move on its own accord..with us.

» Delete this message » Post Reply » Email this user » View this user's other postings » Ignore this user's postings 30200 From DARKMATTER Apr.08.2005 11:30 AM EDT So, the wind do come and the wind do go. But from whence do it come and whither do it go?

» Delete this message » Post Reply » Email this user » View this user's other postings » Ignore this user's postings 30211 From shayne Apr.08.2005 11:43 AM EDT i dont look. but feel. should i know the source. does it matter the source. it starts from nowhere and ends nowhere. it flows like the spirit not caught but along with it. enjoying the ride and not stopping anywhere. let it whip me around. let me whip me around. let me fly into it. i do as the wind does. move and stop and end nowhere.

» Delete this message » Post Reply » Email this user » View this user's other postings » Ignore this user's postings 30212 From TheHermit Apr.08.2005 02:13 PM EDT "Who else?"

.......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... ..........................

» Delete this message » Post Reply » Email this user » View this user's other postings » Ignore this user's postings 30223 From the d.o.m. Apr.08.2005 02:34 PM EDT From TheHermit .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... ..........................

Anything else, Mr. Hermit?

» Delete this message » Post Reply » Email this user » View this user's other postings » Ignore this user's postings 30226 From Number9 Apr.09.2005 05:10 AM EDT "From TheHermit wind comes and goes without feeling free or captive without taking or leaving nothing but it moves things... " No offence, but this reminds me of Colonel Flagg, the Army Intelligence Officer from the TV show MASH, who said he moved like the wind without anyone seeing him come or go, and then he fell out the window and broke his leg while making his divine exit.

The wind is its own creation too, and if it has come and gone here I have not seen it.

» Delete this message » Post Reply » Email this user » View this user's other postings » Ignore this user's postings 30261 From DARKMATTER Apr.09.2005 07:01 AM EDT NumbBumb, that is probably because you got the wind on your 'ignore list'.

» Delete this message » Post Reply » Email this user » View this user's other postings » Ignore this user's postings 30269 From TheHermit Apr.10.2005 03:10 AM EDT "Anything else, Mr. Hermit?"

.......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... .......................... It is not TheHermit question it's yours. May be you have an answer, May be not May be it is in the silent tune that sings the wind when it is not moving...

» Delete this message » Post Reply » Email this user » View this user's other postings » Ignore this user's postings 30329 From the d.o.m. Apr.10.2005 07:53 AM EDT From TheHermit It is not TheHermit question it's yours. May be you have an answer, May be not May be it is in the silent tune that sings the wind when it is not moving...

Oh! Mr. Hermit. No! Mr. "May be", Why did you change your name so quick? The d.o.m. has not said it's your question.

» Delete this message » Post Reply » Email this user » View this user's other postings » Ignore this user's postings 30359 From TheHermit Apr.10.2005 08:18 PM EDT

"Oh! Mr. Hermit. No! Mr. "May be", Why did you change your name so quick? The d.o.m. has not said it's your question."

May be ?? May be !!! Actually MrMayBe said that !!! May be the silent tune is just silent under his words. Now no more words !! May be ?

» Delete this message » Post Reply » Email this user » View this user's other postings » Ignore this user's postings 30424 From the d.o.m. Apr.10.2005 08:28 PM EDT From TheHermit ..... May be the silent tune is just silent under his words. Now no more words !! May be?

Hello Mr Maybe(?), You run out of words, aren't you?

» Delete this message » Post Reply » Email this user » View this user's other postings » Ignore this user's postings 30427 From TheHermit Apr.11.2005 12:06 PM EDT Hello Mr d.o.m.

When that which speaks is mind or self or ego or you it is full of words. When that which does not speak it is not mind or self or ego or you it is full of words too When that which asks is mind or self or ego or you it is full of words When that which does not ask is not mind or self or ego or you it is full of words too. When that which lives is mind or self or ego or you it is full of words When that which dies is not mind or self or ego or you it is full of words too What is it when that which dies? Does it exist or not? Where is it?

I just run out of words...

» Delete this message » Post Reply » Email this user » View this user's other postings » Ignore this user's postings 30457 From the d.o.m. Apr.11.2005 07:25 PM EDT From TheHermit ....................... I just run out of words.

Mr Hermit, You mean that the d.o.m. took the words from you and made them into those questions and now no more words left in you and you couldn't say anything you wanted to say. Is that what mean?

» Delete this message » Post Reply » Email this user » View this user's other postings » Ignore this user's postings 30459 From TheHermit Apr.12.2005 02:11 PM EDT "Mr Hermit, You mean that the d.o.m. took the words from you and made them into those questions and now no more words left in you and you couldn't say anything you wanted to say. Is that what mean?"

No ! I mean that TheHermit took those d.o.m. wise words and made them into these sentences and questions because when he run out of words, the wind that comes and goes whistled these phrases in his ear. This is he wanted to say...

» Delete this message » Post Reply » Email this user » View this user's other postings » Ignore this user's postings 30493 From Lionel Apr.12.2005 04:27 PM EDT ~~~.o00o.~~~ hahaha! ...fron nothing a wave arises thus dust bubbles formation ...then at the same it disappears in no time too... it is working through our leaking senses... ...a fan is not a fan but it is called fan until the very moment current is induced into a conditional system field coil... oh, so it does work like fan producing spontaneously wind...where a person could feel cool... existence or non-existence is purely our bubble's thought... arising upon conditions...

» Delete this message » Post Reply » Email this user » View this user's other postings » Ignore this user's postings 30496 From the d.o.m. Apr.12.2005 09:27 PM EDT From TheHermit I mean that TheHermit took those d.o.m. wise words and made them into these sentences and questions because when he run out of words, the wind that comes and goes whistled these phrases in his ear. This is he wanted to say...

Mr. Hermit, Right now the d.o.m. can read right here a lot of words that come out from you.

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